EVE General Discussion

I'm gonna laugh when WoD comes out and all of the WoD player complain about messing with silly spaceships

Sure can, as a lot of people would attest to...

Considering how much communication goes on in other games' forums directly between dev/gms and players, CCP still comes out on top in this regard. For all the ones who respond, there are probably several times more who at least read the stuff.

I wouldn't expect CCP employees to respond in a knee-jerk fashion to every type of post on these forums. That is not a reasonable, feasible or professional expectation. I do expect CCP to post and respond professionally and in a timely manner in the official release "issue" and "feedback" threads and, unfortunately, they rarely do so.

I am surprised that the examples given above are considered to be examples of CCP 'working hard for their customers.' These fixes are, in some cases, product-breaking bugs that should have been caught and either fixed or used to hold up Incarna 1.1.x deployment. CCP personnel should not be given a pat on the back for completing work that should have been done pre-release. Or, better yet, never introduced into the code at all.

Bugs happen, but proper planning and quality assurance-oriented program management can vastly reduce the amount of crap introduced to the code base and end-product.

I am astonished at the number of CCP apologists who would rather suffer through countless buggy releases than wait another week or month for functionality that works really well with only minor problems.

+1 for CCP to invest in excellent quality assurance-focused talent AND the project management talent with the balls + authority to hold up a code release if there are game-play breaking issues.

I've noticed this "trend" for bit too, but its a bit different than you describe.

If you pay closer attention, you'll see them responding to threads that are both critical and supportive of CCP and Eve Online - where they post the most though, is the threads that are RESPECTFUL in tone and language.

Most of the "raising a concern about the game" posts really start out something like...." EFF YOU CCP YOU DONT CARE ABOUT US BLAH BLAH BLAH GIVE US CAKE OR WE WILL QUIT BLAH BLAH RAGE BLAH BLAH YOU FAIL CCP"

And whether they had a good point or not, no one wants to respond to a-holes and encourage childish behavior. Just like when dealing with children, when they ask nicely, that is when you give them cake. When they throw tantrums and rage and cuss and make demands, its better to ignore them to discourage this behavior.

Your assertion that they ignore threads that question the direction of the game or draw criticism to certain features is simply unfounded. There are numerous examples. Read mawr.

And as to your "silly little vampires/dust" comment - that attitude also probably isn't going to get you very far with the developers either, who have their own creative vision. This is their project, not yours.

Dust is an integral part of Eve, and is a FiS expansion too (wha???? Look - planetary bombardment and planetside sovereignty structures will fundamentally change the way alliances rise to and hold their power. Nuff said. Have some patience, you'll see.)

WoD is simply a different genre - your "spaceships>vampires" preference is really irrelevant to those that have the money and want to make that game. There are plenty of nerds here who arent uppity about WHICH type of nerdy genre they indulge in, and enjoy any good game whether it has vampires, spaceships, elves, or orcs. People play different games, deal with it.

Remember everyone - you are not paying for a custom game. If you want to start your own company that ignores shooters and vampires, go for it. Hire your own devs and front your own cash. But dont try to hijack CCP because they dont fit into YOUR creative vision.