EVE New Citizens Q&A

I don't want to come off on the wrong foot here, the title was more of an attention getter, but I have some nagging questions that I know you guys can help me with.

My main, my only active character, is at a crossroads. I am enjoying myself in a minmatar FW corp, but my funds are rail thin. FW missions have been hit and miss for me, more so missing than hitting, and I usually find myself dropping out of my corp for a week at a time to try and make some isk running regular missions (often having to fix my sec status as I go). This approach; however, is making my employment history look terrible and I am honestly not at all enthusiastic about continuing this.

I looked into other ways of making isk without going to highsec, such that I could ignore my sec status and faction standings, but outside of lowsec or nullsec incursions (which appear to be run only be a few nullsec alliances) I do not know how this is possible. if someone could help enlighten me as to how people live out their pvp lives under such conditions without being broke all the time, I would love to hear of it.

Essentially I am looking for some way around all this without firing up another account and sending CCP more of my money. They made a good game that I enjoy, but having a second active account seems too much. I am not a hardcore player who racks up hours and hours per day in-game, just a guy who spends 3-4 nights a week flying t1 frigates and battlecruisers with mates.

Thanks in advance

fw missions are actually a hilariouly broken free isk generation machine that haven't been fixed and were made even more lucrative with the removal of agent quality, they have been exploited like hell and no consequences means it's probably intended. so look into them a bit more if you want to stay in lowsec <3

The conventional way would be to find one of the many ways of making ISK, preferably one that you enjoy, and do that.

Otherwise, if you fly primarily t1/meta-fit t1 frigs/cruisers/dessies, you're not likely to lose anything important, and might even make a profit via loot.

Almost every single one, except trading and ninjasalvaging, are doable in lowsec/nullsec. Could you give an example of which methods of making ISK are -not- doable in lowsec?

I follow this with interest as well. Only one active account, -9sec status on main, cruiser biggest I can and want to fly. Show us to the making isk in low sec in small ships guide.

Very few. Aside from bounties, agent rewards, insurance payouts and a few other miscellaneous sources, pure ISK is hard to come by (not that aforementioned sources are insignificant, mind you). If you have items to sell and wish to do so reasonably quickly for a fair price, you'll need to get to a hub some way.

There are three ways to accomplish this: contracts (too expensive if you're already broke), T1 haulers (sitting ducks without good scouting/fighter support), and Blockade Runners. Well, there are also Jump Freighters, but if you could afford those, we wouldn't be here. A T1 hauler on a second character (not a second account, a second character) might be an option, but you'll need help in order to take them safely into highsec.

If you can acquire low-volume items from your LP store (implants? blueprints? I know nothing of FW), then your alt could transport the goods to highsec in a fast frigate instead.

In my opinion, though, what you primarily lack is a proper support system. It seems you are a relatively new PvP player with low sec status who only wants to run one account, doesn't want to buy PLEX to trade for ISK, and doesn't belong to a corp with the resources to help you get on your feet.

That's... a very tough spot to be in. I can't see any truly easy solution to it. It's going to be difficult for a while.

Best suggestion, keep going but you also have 2 unused character slots on your account, why not train one of them to a basic industrial ship or maybe even a T2 version (cloaky hauler) and let him do the running while he stays in his newb-corp and doesn't have to worry about standings etc. Once he sold the stuff you just transfer the ISK back to your main guy and buy ships and get them blown up or blow other people's ships up with it.

I've been where you are.

I dislike being forced to train alts. If the game is really a sandbox it should cater to the solo account player. Unfortunately that is not the case these days. But there is a better solution:

It takes far less time to train an alt which can fly every racial frigate and destroyer than to train an alt which flies a blockade runner. The alt only has to fly the ship and carry the modules and ammo in cargo... not fight in it. In a matter of three or four days you can have an alt which can deliver a single ship to you.

On her outbound route (generally via noob ship) the alt carries loot back to Empire.

It's not the best solution. The best solution is that you would not be penalized for seeking solo PvP. But it's a lot damn faster than training a blockade runner alt.

Did you notice the 3 character slots in the login screen? Did you notice the shiny contracts button? Do you feel a bit stupid now?

Quite frankly if your co-operation can't help you with your problems you need to head to the recruitment forum.

Such an answer can only come from simpletons. Help the guy out rather than admonishing him.

OP- It may not necessarily be a corp issue. In my FW corp, we do try to help newbs run hisec L4s with us. It means more to them than it does to us. But as one of the directors, I'm careful to not do to much for them as I firmly believe they need to be independent and self sufficient. Darwinism.

I recommend an alt who can haul for you. And take the time to train a 3rd alt as a trader...assuming you like trading.

FW missions are lucrative but it is a delayed gratification as you have to convert the items from the LP and then sell it on the market which does take time. There are alot of faction mods already being flooded on the market which means competition.

Otherwise, I recommend keeping your sec status high enough to enter hisec and do L4s with corpmates.

Of course, you might be too new to FW and may need to stick to empire for awhile before committing to FW. I don't recommend complete noobs joining FW as the losses rack up big time and they just need to focus on making iskies