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TD's on Interceptors? Yes/No Discuss
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Kaldiir
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-02-10 14:05:59 UTC
I have recently been looking through my assets and noticed i have a TD in my items hanger.

that got me thinking about using a TD on ceptors (yes the CPU req is a little high for the ship), would this a good idea or a complete and total epic fail
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#2 - 2012-02-10 14:10:45 UTC
Why don't you try it first and then report back on your findings?

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy
#3 - 2012-02-10 14:26:07 UTC
As many other things in Eve it all depends on the exact situation... I've seen it used with success in smaller engagements on ceptors with plenty medslots, but I've also seen it fail horrible for people flying their ships untanked against a sizeable enemy.

Try it out - get your own feeling for it... Ceptors are cheap anyway.

Pinky
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#4 - 2012-02-10 14:36:00 UTC
Kaldiir wrote:
I have recently been looking through my assets and noticed i have a TD in my items hanger.

that got me thinking about using a TD on ceptors (yes the CPU req is a little high for the ship), would this a good idea or a complete and total epic fail


If you're going the TD route you might want to look at AFs now they've been buffed. Dunno.

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Jodie Amille
EVE Corporation 690846971
#5 - 2012-02-10 15:24:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Jodie Amille
A TD on my stiletto has allowed me to do some pretty hilarious stuff.

EDIT: in the gang tackle role, not as a combat ceptor fit
Kaldiir
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-02-10 21:10:48 UTC
I thought about testing it out its just a little tight on fitting for a Malediction, ill be doing some ratting today to give me a feel
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#7 - 2012-02-10 21:19:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Petrus Blackshell
I just wrote a blog post on this a couple days ago. It works marvelously, but you need to pick your targets carefully. Read about it here: http://blackshell-eve.blogspot.com/2012/02/how-to-counter-slicer-with-raptor.html

I love the Malediction myself, but my fit requires a 1% CPU implant to work even at max skills if I want to have it nos.

Edit: WTF BBCode.

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Kaldiir
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-02-10 22:10:38 UTC
nice blog, i do agree with you about the Malediction, the lack of needing to track w/ turrets makes it one less thing to worry about when orbiting. i just need to fiddle with the fitting sense the TD makes the fit more CPU intensive
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#9 - 2012-02-10 22:34:48 UTC
Kaldiir wrote:
nice blog, i do agree with you about the Malediction, the lack of needing to track w/ turrets makes it one less thing to worry about when orbiting. i just need to fiddle with the fitting sense the TD makes the fit more CPU intensive


This is the best I can get it. The meta-4 TD is unfortunate, but necessary if you want a nos. If you go for a neut instead, you can use a meta-3 one.

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Kaldiir
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-02-10 22:58:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaldiir
I prefer to use the launcher rigs (i understand the CPU cost) even tho ceptors arent true damage types* i still like to deal a decent amount of damage

*comparitively
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#11 - 2012-02-10 23:02:25 UTC
Kaldiir wrote:
I prefer to use the launcher rigs (i understand the CPU cost) even tho ceptors arent true damage types* i still like to deal a decent amount of damage

*comparitively

Yeah the damage boost is nice, but that fit requires a 1% implant to work in the first place, so any more CPU load on it is unacceptable.

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Ahrieman
Codex Praedonum
Divine Damnation
#12 - 2012-02-10 23:56:34 UTC
Jodie Amille wrote:
A TD on my stiletto has allowed me to do some pretty hilarious stuff.

EDIT: in the gang tackle role, not as a combat ceptor fit


Also used it on my stiletto for gang tackling. 4 mids lets stiletto do this role really well and with a range script, just makes em mad.

As far as a 3 mid slot combat ceptor goes, I haven't tried it, but it seems valid. I think the malediction sounds like a great ship to try this on and now feel compelled to get into a malediction to try this.

Solo Rifter since 2009
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#13 - 2012-02-11 00:08:19 UTC
Ahrieman wrote:
Jodie Amille wrote:
A TD on my stiletto has allowed me to do some pretty hilarious stuff.

EDIT: in the gang tackle role, not as a combat ceptor fit


Also used it on my stiletto for gang tackling. 4 mids lets stiletto do this role really well and with a range script, just makes em mad.

As far as a 3 mid slot combat ceptor goes, I haven't tried it, but it seems valid. I think the malediction sounds like a great ship to try this on and now feel compelled to get into a malediction to try this.


I have never lost a 1v1 fight with a Taranis in that Malediction (fought 3 or 4 different ones, including one after blaster buff). I have also tackled a Cynabal effectively (survived more than a minute) on two occasions -- my allies were unable to kill it either time though. I have tackled AFs (before the AF buff) effectively, killed a kiting Crusader, and almost solo-killed a Loki who GCC'd me on a lowsec gate (a Legion came in to help him at the last minute).

You really should try it. It's wonderful if you know how to pick your fights.

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Ahrieman
Codex Praedonum
Divine Damnation
#14 - 2012-02-11 00:28:02 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:

I have never lost a 1v1 fight with a Taranis in that Malediction (fought 3 or 4 different ones, including one after blaster buff).
You really should try it. It's wonderful if you know how to pick your fights.


Will do. One question for you if you can recall: were any of those Tarani fit with electrons?

Solo Rifter since 2009
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#15 - 2012-02-11 00:30:29 UTC
Ahrieman wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:

I have never lost a 1v1 fight with a Taranis in that Malediction (fought 3 or 4 different ones, including one after blaster buff).
You really should try it. It's wonderful if you know how to pick your fights.


Will do. One question for you if you can recall: were any of those Tarani fit with electrons?

Nope, it was either ions or neutrons. I don't use tracking speed disruption on them, it's pointless. However, if I stick an optimal range disruption script on, even neutrons with Null don't hit past 4-5 km, and the Malediction is faster and tankier than the Taranis (assuming the cookie-cutter dualprop).

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Ahrieman
Codex Praedonum
Divine Damnation
#16 - 2012-02-11 00:46:55 UTC
Petrus, thanks for the feedback. I realize that electrons are rare on a taranis, but was just curious as to the details of your engagements. Sounds like a good time in a malediction.

Solo Rifter since 2009
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#17 - 2012-02-11 01:12:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Petrus Blackshell
Ahrieman wrote:
Petrus, thanks for the feedback. I realize that electrons are rare on a taranis, but was just curious as to the details of your engagements. Sounds like a good time in a malediction.


Only one actually resulted in a killmail (Ed: that was 1v1, the others didn't actually interfere). The others were friendly engagements in which a blue didn't believe me that my Malediction could kill a Taranis.

Oh, another fun fact: get a kiting frig to come with you (an AF or something) and then scram a Thrasher. Stick optimal range disruption on him, then orbit him at 8-9 km. He will do almost no damage, even with Barrage, while your AF buddy kills him from a safe distance. I did that once and got accused of "blobbing".

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Kaldiir
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-02-11 05:04:27 UTC
well after a while of fitting a TD on my malediction i come to love it, i was able to stay alive while running with a buddy in lvl4's. they really helped keeping the elite frigs from hitting me as much, i see even better now what you were saying in your blog. even with being low on CPU i still was able to fit 200mm and Overdrive injectors. I love my Malediction
Revolution Rising
Last-Light Holdings
#19 - 2012-02-12 10:06:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Revolution Rising
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=776996#post776996

Am doing something similar on an AF - it works well in this age of tier 3 sniper BC's.

Not sure it really suits a ceptor personally, but I don't fly them.

Certainly works well on the AF fit I linked, I really liked the reasoning I read on battleclinic about it. Again, not sure how well it would apply to the ceptor, have to check for yourself on that one.

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Ahrieman
Codex Praedonum
Divine Damnation
#20 - 2012-02-12 11:08:17 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Ahrieman wrote:
Petrus, thanks for the feedback. I realize that electrons are rare on a taranis, but was just curious as to the details of your engagements. Sounds like a good time in a malediction.


Only one actually resulted in a killmail (Ed: that was 1v1, the others didn't actually interfere). The others were friendly engagements in which a blue didn't believe me that my Malediction could kill a Taranis.

Oh, another fun fact: get a kiting frig to come with you (an AF or something) and then scram a Thrasher. Stick optimal range disruption on him, then orbit him at 8-9 km. He will do almost no damage, even with Barrage, while your AF buddy kills him from a safe distance. I did that once and got accused of "blobbing".


Bads gonna be bad. I was once accused of blobbing when I pulled dps and held someone in place so a friend could come whore on a mail. What are you gonna do?

Solo Rifter since 2009
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