EVE General Discussion

It was only today i realised who these people are, mainly clueless individuals with no idea of the game mechanics jsut calling "nerf this, nerf this" if they dont fly it themselfs!!

I saw someone today saying "i hope they nurf ecm drones" then claiming that a flight of 4 hornet 300's kept his double eccm basilisk perma jammed through a entier fight.

As far as i knew ECM doesnt stack and with a hornet 300 only having a sensor strenth of 5 and a basi of 22. this tall story seems very tall indeed!! The jaming is chance based and 5 times out of 22 would that basi get jammed. 5:22 thats hardly a perma am situation to me. 0_o

Please people with CCP listening to the comunity on the direction the game should take, lets not cry out for stupid nerfs - ESPECIALY WHEN WE DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE GAME MECHANICS!!!!!!!

What has ECM droning to do with "nerf xxxxx". Stealth nerf calling for ECM-drones, or the basilisk? Or anything else i did´nt get?

Nerf nerfing.

4 drones, each with 5:22 means EACH drone has a (roughly) 1 in 4 chance of jamming the guy (actual numbers in 1 in 4.4).

Since ECM at that point is random, the game "rolls" a number for each drone ... if it lands on the right number, the jam works. Each drone is individual, and the probability of at least one drone htting the "right" number every cycle is fairly good.

One interesting thing is that the people calling for a lot of these nerfs are people who are getting ganked by them, super caps are a prime example, now they're complaining about drakes being OP because they're in the top for getting kills.

It's not usually that they don't know anything about the game mechanics, it's that they know full well about them and want to change them so they benefit more instead of the other side.

Nerf ECM drones.
A Thorax can jam a Rupture 70% of the time, every 20 seconds, with Vespa EC-600s.

True story. I still cry myself to sleep every night.

so basically titan tracking is perfectly balanced because one side annihilates the other unopposed with zero losses

i hope you never have to fight under a cynojammer

No, it isn't balanced, but what amazes me is you seem to think that nerfing it will make any difference, when it's the game mechanics themselves that are the problem, they haven't been designed with balance in mind to begin with.

There are companies actually trying to do this. Some of us put in a lot of training on caps lock and it would be a wasted time if they removed it.

If 10.000 noobs paying per month whine about ECM CCP will nerf the Falcon to 30km optimal. Fortunately there are not 10.000 of them. But never underestimate the power of mass-whining.

We have to accept that this game development is affected by the players experience. And a complex game like EVE has many very different levels of experience and what you do ingame. PvP is indeed the hot-spot for whining at game mechanics. The more new ships and mods are added the harder and nearly impossible it will be to bring fair balance.

For instance the most hatred ECM. All this whining by history has become a joke. You get ganked by 10 ships, you bring a Falcon to escape or counter the numbers and you get for sure a "F*CK OFF WITH THAT FALCON!" in local. It's really funny because the 10 vs 1 (webbing, scramming, sniping, jamming, neuting) is much more annoying in this moment and not a Falcon at 70km dying, too, btw. All you can do is to spam the warp button with a "O.K., that's it. I am dead!" So what's the conclusion? NERF fleets? Hell, no. WTF. But give the Falcon a buff again. HELL NO!!! (forums would be spammed with tears, if this happens).

NERF BLOBS. NERF PLAYERS IN A FLEET (because you can't counter them solo). BUFF FALCONS TO 150KM OPTIMAL BECAUSE THIER 3 BC'S OR LOKI BOOSTED WEBS AND POINTS MAKES THEM USELESS UNDER 100KM. And so on...

I know, I am mad, bro!