EVE General Discussion

I don't have a problem. I Care Bear. I avoid player-run Corps like the plague. The only reason they exist, (player Corps) is to provide War-Dec-able victims to the Blood-thristy savages who prayed to the Internet-Gods and were given spaceships.

I think it was the Original Poster, who came to EVE to mine and build and enjoy the Sandbox, and was forced to PvP, no doubt at a severe disadvantage, just the way all the great Pvpers of EVE like it. An EVE PvPers favorite target is ship without Tank and Without Weapons. Witness all the space-ship-savages crying; When's Hulkageddon start? When's Hulkageddon start?! When's Hulkageddon start?!

But he/she is the one with the 15 dollars a month, and CCP is the one that just laid off 20% of their work force.

I continue to believe that making pockets of high sec completely safe while reducing MILDLY their profitability would be a boon for this game.

I have never understood why so many people believe that it is impossible in this game to incorporate the needs of the non-agressive and the agressive.

There are creators and their are destroyers. Those are pretty much the two types of players in this game. They will never mix, so separate them in an equitable way. Make low/null sec much more profitable than high sec, but make high sec completely safe.

And I am sooooooo tired of everyone in this community kicking people to the curb so quickly. Please have a look at the following link if you love this game so much. Pay attention to the bottom where it says "All time daily average".

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

Hopefully that will open your eyes a bit and you'll realize that acting like a psychopath to other players is not in fact in your best interest.

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility


Look at the bottom. They sure as hell better start doing something!

If you're running a business you sure as hell don't want any of your stat charts to look like that.

You do realise that 2006 is to the right in that graph? So the numbers are a bit down from the 2011 peak. But that is primarily because of the whole Incarna debacle when they stopped listening to their core gaming demographic and pandered to lord alone knows what.

Ok, look at the past year. Negative growth. Still bad.

And there is also this thing called inflation that is always in effect. But please, keep saying to players that leave "HAHA you suck can I have your stuff!".

Because after all servers don't cost money or anything.

Also do you know what was at the root of the incarna debacle? THEY WERE TRYING TO MAKE MORE MONEY BY SELLING IN GAME ITEMS! And you didn't like that did you? Well if you "hard core" PvP types would chill the hell out with your cutt throat attitudes toward everyone else maybe the game would attract more players and they wouldn't have to try selling 80 dollar monocles to keep their game afloat.

2010-01-23 - 35,647
2011-01-19 - 36,862
2012-01-22 - 35,493

You don't really have enough data for 2012 to say anything about what this year will be like. The current position is about the same.

Keep in mind they did what you are suggesting - tried to change their core demographic and focus of the game - lost a number of core players thanks to that; hence the dip in 2011 on average.

You do not "fix" EVE and the population by ******* over the existing customer base to pander to some imaginary demographic that may or may not be suited to the game.

That way lies disaster as we have seen.



Go look at my Killboard knuckfuckle. Oh right, it's empty. I enjoy PvP on the marketplace, the production areas and try to mitigate my risks while flying my ships. I'm one of the players that enjoy EVE for the concept of risk and reward.

This game is NOT risk free PvE. It is an open world that allows anyone to try their chosen gamestyle as long as they accept the risks involved. You cannot change that without changing the game.

The people you call "hard core" PvP types understand that; because they realise that everything you do in EVE from mission running to Incursions to hauling to mining to combat are all PVP activities!

Yeah, new players in new highsec player corps get stomped because all of the fat carebears either hide behind dec shields or npc corps (ban both btw)

Look at last quarter. Not too bad.

And you know when interpreting that graph you need to take seasonal variation into account. The fact is EvE has been doing quite well by growing every year since launch up and until Incarna and is now starting to take back what it lost last year.

But I guess you are one of these "EvE is dying" persons that don't like facts.

Crushed Ambitions seems somehow appropriate now.

You edit your posts very fast

Your previous comment made mention of world inflation, etc. without considering that infrastructure is depreciated, capital outlay is recovered and profit margins increase per subscription while base costs per subscriptions do not substantially increase. Then, you do not consider the recent re-focus on FiS and how that will impact this years' revenue and are choosing to focus on one small slice in isolation.

All in all, I don't think your analytical skills are worth the pixels you spent to render them.

This game is NOT risk free PvE. It is an open world that allows anyone to try their chosen gamestyle as long as they accept the risks involved. You cannot change that without changing the game.

The people you call "hard core" PvP types understand that; because they realise that everything you do in EVE from mission running to Incursions to hauling to mining to combat are all PVP activities!

Edit: Because it appears the post I was replying to was edited again?