Intergalactic Summit

Jade Constantine;

One would think that you would be able to differentiate between individuals and organisations. I am personally quite interested in and amused by the activities undertaken by The Star Fraction—especially those which contradict with the espoused ideology. That your organisation is a non-entity to mine is easily verifiable by checking the DED database and noting a lack of relationship existing between us (at least from our end). Please do not ascribe more importance to me than I warrant, or divert discussion way from issues and towards logical fallacies as you are wont to do.

I most certainly shall; and, I shall continue to post in your threads so as to give you the attention you so desperately seek. I would ask that you consider joining us in Freeport Delve, as it would go a long way in convincing many people that you actually do have the courage to match your convictions and that you are capable of more than staged conflicts and hollow words spoken through a commlink.

Can you explain exactly what you are proposing here?

And, not that this likely matters to you, The Star Fraction would earn my respect as well as that of several of my compatriots.

I have stated several times that I do not intend to offer you or sell you anything. I have also made my statements very simple. If you wish to further obfuscate my message so that you can justify ignoring it, then that is your prerogative.

What the difference with a fractionite freeport, out of curiosity ?

Well firstly I'll acknowledge I didn't fully understand what it was that ms Nairn was "offering". But a little research has revealed the details. As I now understand it what Goonswarm is doing is removing all capsuleer-owned sovereignty from Delve and conquering all the non blood-raider outposts and erecting their own claim units while pledging to keep the outposts open to all with available facilties. They offer nobody standings and will of course treat anyone moving to this space as targets but they challenge capsuleer corporations to make a living there in what they consider to be genuine chaotic freespace.

A problem of course is the Goonswarm reputation. There is literally no reason that then Goons could not encourage a whole group of corporations and alliances to move their assets into these outposts for a while before changing their minds and restricting docking rights and removing offices. In effect they would capture untold billions of assets which they could ransom back at their leisure. It would be a fine carnival of "griefing" and that perhaps is the biggest problem ms Nairn has in selling the concept. To take her at her word one would need to bet against the goons simply changing their minds and trapping your possessions in outposts there.

So to your question Lyn Farel the honest answer is "reputation". The Fraction do not betray our friends or allies and we've maintained our NRDS principles and consistent ideals since the beginning of the capsuleer Diaspora. When we established TAZ Norlonto as a freeport in the New Providence period all neutrals and friends knew that our word could be trusted and we wouldn't suddenly turn round and restrict docking rights after they based their industrial fleet there.

So understand. I did misjudge what ms Nairn was saying earlier and for that I do apologize. I do actually believe she believes in what she is offering here, literally a chaotic environment on the deep frontier where the strongest flourish and utlize these "free ports" as a base. But as I said, the problem is that I don't personally (and I suspect I would be joined in the opinions of many) trust the goon directorate to keep the promise to maintain these outposts as freeports in the longterm.

It might well just be a "trap". And that really is a problem with the Goonswarm reputation in New Eden.

I suggest you speak to your corporate leadership and ask them why they did not wish to formally conclude hostilties in the manner that Trinova have so appropriately demonstrated with great dignity in this very thread.

The Star Fraction vs Moira conflict in Placid was over with the destruction of your Pelille HQ and the general exodus of your forces from the area. The conflict could easily have been resolved at that point with simple diplomacy. I believe all we wanted from you was the acknowledgement that you had been wrong to describe our presence in the region as "destabilizing" for honest business and to admit your initial attacks on our vessels was unwarrented.

Your leadership refused these perfectly-reasonable terms and opted to skulk away. When they began to skulk back again we dropped a wardec in place to allow us to shoot up your vessels if it appeared you were hoping to re-establish an operating presence for hostility against free trade in the region.

That really is all that needs to be said.

IF you want to properly conclude hostilites then the door for diplomacy is always open. If not, then don't try to shift the responsibility for conflict onto the side that has only ever been defending free trade and open transit in placid.

An idea just occured to me Lyris Nairn on this precise subject. I'm glad you appreciate that an organization moving its assets to "freeport delve" would need to make a trust assessment on the reputation of the Goonswarm leadership and I further acknowledge that the personal faith and honesty of Goonswarm members could well influence this decision. So lets do a trust excercise. I have an unblemished record for honourable dealings in new eden since the beginning of the disapora. I have never stolen or betrayed my allies, never broken faith or such.

Would you trust me with the value of a medium sized corporation's assets?

I give you an opportunity to prove yourself the bolder and more courageous than I am.

Transfer to my ISK account the sum of 30 billion isk and I give you my word I will send it back to you and report the exchange to this summit. If nothing else it will show that you are prepared to take the scale of risk that you are inviting others to experience.

If you do this thing you will have proven something to everyone here and genuinely achieved a PR result.

I can certainly understand that - perhaps you might ask the goon directorate to make the funds available to you for this purpose?



Simply as I said, its a trust excercise that would show you are as willing to place a significant sum of isk at hazard as the CEO of a corporation taking up your suggestion in Delve would be placing at risk the assets of their organization against future docking revoking. Nothing more or less than that.



Strangely enough in my heart of hearts I'm actually hoping you do it. It would genuinely surprise me and cause me to revisit a number of current opinions and assessments.