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[EM] Joining the Militia
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Rorin Cutter
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#21 - 2012-02-08 11:41:39 UTC
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:
As Commander Sadik explains, we have always been ready to negotiate with NBSI entities. Our standings policies do not require an organization to follow a NRDS policy; what it requires is that the entity commits no crimes in Republic space. Even if an organization technically allows shooting neutrals but in practice all they shoot is Amarr Militia, we will be willing to consider blue standings. We also as a policy do not consider piracy out of Republic areas our concern, even though the vast majority of our membership finds it objectionable everywhere.

These principles are unlikely to change now that we are in the Militia. What might change is that we will put (even) more energy into trying to negotiate mutually acceptable agreements with friendly Militia corporations. However, pirates and other criminals will not be safe from us by simply joining up on paper. Declaring CONCORD-wars to avoid standings losses is a strategic/tactical decision that will be made case-by-case by military commanders.

In other words, to quote the gentleman from CVA, nothing has changed much and we are still godless heathens.

I hope this answers the concerns. There is a separate thread for the Obsidian Front business, so I will not comment it here, beyond stating that any public arguing about it is likely to do more harm than good for any future negotiations.

Elsebeth Rhiannon
Diplomat
Electus Matari


It is always refreshing to meet someone who talks plainly. If you are ready to convert someday, come talk to me. God really is watching!

Amarr Victor!

-Rorin Cutter
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#22 - 2012-02-08 11:51:54 UTC
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:
I hope this answers the concerns. There is a separate thread for the Obsidian Front business, so I will not comment it here, beyond stating that any public arguing about it is likely to do more harm than good for any future negotiations.
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Diplomat
Electus Matari


On a connected and rather urgent matter. You have mail.

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ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#23 - 2012-02-08 12:43:17 UTC
I hope this leads to war between the NBSI elements of the militia and the NRDS ones, if the NRDS win, then the milita is cleaned up, if the NBSI wins then organizations like EM get hurt, and due to their stance in the Nation this is a good thing. The way I see it everyone wins.
Kazzzi
Heathen Legion
Iron Men of the Hood
#24 - 2012-02-08 13:14:28 UTC
/poasting in a thread that is now about acronyms.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#25 - 2012-02-08 15:49:24 UTC
Kazzzi wrote:
/poasting in a thread that is now about acronyms.


TBQH STFU.

On topic, I am glad to hear that EM does not treat anti-Amarr NBSI entities disfavorably. I look forward to flying alongside you ladies and gentlemen.

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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#26 - 2012-02-08 20:19:09 UTC
Thank you for the answer, which was expected and not really surprising.

If there is one thing that the Militia Power Act managed to do, is to allow real politik to prevail on ethics.
Silence iKillYouu
Girls Lie But Zkill Doesn't
Pandemic Legion
#27 - 2012-02-09 00:53:08 UTC
So will u guys stop killing minmatar militia pilots now?

EVE Mail me i dont check forums often.
Flyinghotpocket
Small Focused Memes
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#28 - 2012-02-09 01:08:32 UTC
O great. sasawongs fanatic bodyguard's numbers just increased.

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Daniel L'Siata
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#29 - 2012-02-09 14:57:44 UTC
Kazzzi wrote:
/poasting in a thread that is now about acronyms.


I like acronyms.

Hands up if you didn't see this coming?

Do try to be careful.
Nick Bete
Highsec Haulers Inc.
#30 - 2012-02-09 19:09:02 UTC
Good luck EM and fly safely!
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#31 - 2012-02-09 19:25:19 UTC
Silence iKillYouu wrote:
So will u guys stop killing minmatar militia pilots now?


May I respectfully suggest you read the answer already given on the topic?
Trendafil
Balkan Kings
Goonswarm Federation
#32 - 2012-02-10 16:36:42 UTC
Ynot Eyob wrote:
[quote=Sanche Tehkeli]


What the future brings between Electus Matari and The Obsidian Front, time will tell. Regardless what we will support with what resources we have, to support a turn back for the minmatar repulic, and get Wolfbrigade out of Kamala, Lamaa, Kourm and Auga.



Let me be the first to welcome you to our killboard...
Steve Celeste
Doomheim
#33 - 2012-02-10 16:41:47 UTC
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:
"I like more flashy", summarizes another.

When he was a boy
Marus Sulla
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
#34 - 2012-02-11 11:50:13 UTC
Though we have not always seen eye-to-eye in the past I wish the pilots of EM well.

May their god speed the crusaders ships into range of your autocannons.

Regards,

Marus

Anam Matar.

The Soul of Matar.
Meklon
Minmatar United Freedom Front
#35 - 2012-02-12 00:47:14 UTC
Interesting.... but not unexpected.

Fly hard my old friends.
Darius Shakor
Second Shakor Clan
#36 - 2012-02-12 20:48:24 UTC
Aim true my old friends.

Watch your flanks, though. There are other threats out there since the war started. Ears to the ground...

Darius Shakor - Kacha

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Gabriel Darkefyre
Gradient
Electus Matari
#37 - 2012-02-13 02:28:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Gabriel Darkefyre
An Interesting, though not unexpected, development. Though I am not authorised to speak on behalf of my Corporation or Alliance, I personally wish you good hunting in this move.
Rek Jaiga
Teraa Matar
#38 - 2012-02-13 03:04:52 UTC
I am glad Electus Matari is part of the Tribal Liberation Force now! I look forward to flying with you folks.
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#39 - 2012-02-15 11:53:37 UTC
Congratulations.
  • Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim

Angels are never far...

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Alistair Cononach
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#40 - 2012-02-15 15:37:41 UTC
Lyn Farel wrote:
Ms Rhiannon,

In the hope to ask something constructive regarding the statement of your alliance, could you clarify the part refering to the renegociation of your KOS targets that are part of the TLF ?

In fact, two things are worth considering to my opinion, and I am pretty sure you have already discussed it internally countless times before taking your decision on the matter :

- If the KOS corporations/pilots that are part of the TLF continue to clash with your current policies, or if both parties can not reach an agreement to reset their mutual standings, are you going to change your policies or close your eyes on them by convenience ?

- If not, how are you going to deal with intra militia conflicts involving EM and other TLF entities (which means that you will have either to issue war declarations to avoid faction standing losses or suffer these standing losses) ?

Of course, you are probably aware of what kind of people you can find in the militias (thus, your KOS list). What are your stances on that matter ?


Welcome to why CVA will likely never, ever, join the Amarr 24th Crusade.

The diplomatic angle alone, standings wrangling and our NRDS vs. Reds/NBSI/Pirates/Mercs in the Militia makes it all but an impossabillity.

Of course, leadership also rightfully points out CVA's Mandate is Providence, not the Proxy War in Amarrian Low-Sec, where we're as likely to be shot at by Amarr Militia as we are Matari.

Best of luck (administratively, of course) EM, will be interesting to hear how it works out for you.
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