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Lock This thread - shame on your ccp for allowing this to end this way - 7 pages of hate

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Sprite Can
#61 - 2012-02-09 16:59:47 UTC
Yep, that's kind of the point of EVE. Not sure what inclined you to believe otherwise.

Refreshing Lemon-Lime~

KrakizBad
Section 8.
#62 - 2012-02-09 17:19:44 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Lady Vella seems to know a bit about eve's game mechanics. She also appears to have an alt. The alt appears to be into pvp.

Nice catch!

Valei Khurelem wrote:
This is why a large number of EVE players aren't bothering coming to the forums anymore

Good, the fewer hisec nobodies who come to the forums means the fewer who pay attention to CSM and thus will be in for a pleasant surprise when the next round of hisec nerfs are announced. Big smile
Spyolz Rotsuda
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#63 - 2012-02-09 17:28:13 UTC
This IS a PvP game, whether you like it or not, if not, get the **** out. Industry. mining, complex running etc, are all just ways of supporting the war and pvp effort. imo almost every PvE aspect of the game is focused on supporting your PvP efforts, of course there is place for everyone in the game, people do whatever they want, thats what an MMO is for, if you want to mine but you keep getting wardecced then stay in a NPC corp, as simple as that, even then you will prolly get suicide ganked, this is the way it is when you play a PvP game.

IF you dont like it, its just a matter of going back to the masses of 10 year olds of WoW where you get a huge cookie regardless if you won or not. EvE takes your cookie and laughs at you for bringing one.
Borun Tal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#64 - 2012-02-09 17:32:49 UTC
Hey, OP, does your life suck so much that you have to resort to posting troll threads ("awsum"?) on game websites?

Check into that whole "life" thing, stat.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#65 - 2012-02-09 17:35:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
KrakizBad wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Lady Vella seems to know a bit about eve's game mechanics. She also appears to have an alt. The alt appears to be into pvp.

Nice catch!

Valei Khurelem wrote:
This is why a large number of EVE players aren't bothering coming to the forums anymore

Good, the fewer hisec nobodies who come to the forums means the fewer who pay attention to CSM and thus will be in for a pleasant surprise when the next round of hisec nerfs are announced. Big smile


Yeah, he beat me to it.

I'd like to give the OP troll points... but this one doesn't really make it all the way into the ranking system except possibly as an honorable mention.

Still...

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Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#66 - 2012-02-09 17:38:20 UTC
No, Op EVE is not forced PvP

It's forced PvE

Its the only way to make ISK. Most people who come expect to PvP but spend 90% of thier time grinding ISK.

You, in your defence, didn't get to do either.
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#67 - 2012-02-09 17:56:18 UTC
Bischopt wrote:
If it's wardecs you're worried about the solution is quite simple:
1) NPC corp that cannot be wardecced
2) a respectable corp that wont be wardecced because they're too much of a threat
3) grow some balls and fight back

Quote:
I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to?




4) Become mobile, taunt your attackers, discover that they don't want to work for their food. Ok, maybe not taunt them, that is probably why you are getting decced (for the tears),but don't let them get to you.

http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=969783&page=2

^^^ When I was a young miner I had a similar problem (sorry for the horribly typos and crap, my posts start about 1/3 of the way down page 2). In the end I actually made a lot more isk from my adventure than had I stayed in a static location, I had a better infrastructure set up when I was done(two separate fleets), and we actually had a lot of people join the corp afterwards.

Otherwise, rotate corps to dodge decs. You have a couple alts, have them make a corp. When you get decced on one, go to the other. It'll cost you only 1.5 million isk per corp to create it. That way you can dodge missions taxes (my corp is just a tax shelter). Otherwise join an NPC corp again.

At this point you need to move out of your current area if you should want to stay, especially now that you are a tear target. If you do really leave, your cries will be lost in the sea of angry players you never understood what Eve was about and got mad that someone kicked over your sandcastle.


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"If you are part of the problem, you will be nerfed." -MadMuppet

Lyron-Baktos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#68 - 2012-02-09 18:04:16 UTC
Eve is like the wild wild west. Anything and everything goes. You don't have to PVP but you do have to protect your ****.

Look at it this way, if you go to the wrong part of St. Louis in a nice shiny car and start goofing off, you will be ganked in a heartbeat.
Jas Dor
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#69 - 2012-02-09 18:16:17 UTC
Repeat after me folks, CCP has a large PR problem they need to deal with. Also people leave the game when their player communities cease to exist.
Alistair Cononach
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#70 - 2012-02-09 18:18:58 UTC
Lady Vella wrote:
So

I started EvE Online a few months back. I was told by a friend who lives in deep null that it was an awsum game and since we both quit WoW when cata came out i thought hell ill try it

So...

Every corp i have joined has been war decced within 2-3 days of me joining it. What im told are griefer corps

I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to?

I am being forced into war and pvp

Im done

CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of

Pathetic


Probably a mistake, but will treat as non-troll....

1. A Hostile War-Dec does not cause your Mining Laser I's to no longer function. A few very basic precautions on your part, and you could have mined away the day in relative safety. First, go to a low-population, or better yet, an empty system. PLenty low-pop systems about. Undock, go mine, keep one eye on local for War Targets. If one enters the system, dock. If he camps you, either wait, or log for 5-10 min. Odds are, he'll get bored and move on. When you log back in, change systems (don;t be a target).

2. A War Dec does not force you into PvP. It merely allows PvP to occur in High-Sec between the parties. Your actions, or lack of actions, are what will lead to PvP or not.

3. If War Dec's are too much, remaining a member of the NPC Corp eliminates teh trheat of War Dec's and High-Sec War-related PvP.

4. EVE is built around there being no 100% safe existence, and even as a miner mining away the day, you're still PvP'ing. PvP'ing when you sell your minerals on the market. PvP'ing if you use your mins to build ships for sale or corporate use. PvP'ing when you mine a good roid some other miner may have wanted.

5. Not every game is for every player. Perhaps WoW, or similar no-risk, PvE-centric style MMO's are more your speed. No harm in that, to each their own. Because EVE may not be suited to your preferences, does not mean "slamming it on every forum" is a mature or approrpriate thing to do. Why rage? Just move on to something else, plenty of games in the world, and many let you "just mine" with no risk involved.

Best of luck if serious, diaf if troll.
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#71 - 2012-02-09 18:31:05 UTC
Bischopt wrote:
If it's wardecs you're worried about the solution is quite simple:
1) NPC corp that cannot be wardecced
2) a respectable corp that wont be wardecced because they're too much of a threat
3) grow some balls and fight back

Quote:
I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to?


You can.
And so can everyone else, that's the whole point.

Eve is a sandbox, unlike wow.
CCP may not be perfect and they've made some pretty nasty mistakes, some of which are still fresh, but Eve as a whole is not one of them. You're the one with the problem, not CCP.



some people dont like fighting, what is it about that people dont get? Eve has mining for a reason, it actually isn't all bots you know.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.

Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#72 - 2012-02-09 18:33:44 UTC
OP is trolling, get a life.
BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
#73 - 2012-02-09 18:47:20 UTC
Lady Vella wrote:
So

I started EvE Online a few months back. I was told by a friend who lives in deep null that it was an awsum game and since we both quit WoW when cata came out i thought hell ill try it

So...

Every corp i have joined has been war decced within 2-3 days of me joining it. What im told are griefer corps

I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to?

I am being forced into war and pvp

Im done

CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of

Pathetic


It's a good thing your quitting as it is clearly obvious that this game is just WAAAAY too advanced for you. WoW is clearly more of your intellegence level and you should stick to games such as that.

I hear Star Trek Online is looking for players...That's more your speed as well.

I'd say "Can I haz yer stuff" since you only played a few weeks you probably have **** anyway.

Mine smart. Mine safe. Purchase your mining permit today...... www.minerbumping.com

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#74 - 2012-02-09 19:04:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
sYnc Vir wrote:
Bischopt wrote:
If it's wardecs you're worried about the solution is quite simple:
1) NPC corp that cannot be wardecced
2) a respectable corp that wont be wardecced because they're too much of a threat
3) grow some balls and fight back

Quote:
I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to?


You can.
And so can everyone else, that's the whole point.

Eve is a sandbox, unlike wow.
CCP may not be perfect and they've made some pretty nasty mistakes, some of which are still fresh, but Eve as a whole is not one of them. You're the one with the problem, not CCP.



some people dont like fighting, what is it about that people dont get? Eve has mining for a reason, it actually isn't all bots you know.


In reality, the actual definition of mining in EVE is "procuring minerals from asteroids while avoiding hostile/pirate craft that wish to prevent them from doing so".

Regardless of how it is interpreted, this is how things actually work in game. You either come to terms wtih that, or you chose a profession that does not require undocking.

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Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#75 - 2012-02-09 19:07:01 UTC
lol This is an open world, PVP game. Coming into the game thinking otherwise is your fault. Please enjoy your stay in World of Fruitycolors.
Lyron-Baktos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2012-02-09 19:07:57 UTC
I just don't get why people think a space game should have 100% safe spots. There are thousands of space movies out there and I would bet, 99% of them show that space is not safe
Valei Khurelem
#77 - 2012-02-09 19:09:29 UTC
Lyron-Baktos wrote:
I just don't get why people think a space game should have 100% safe spots. There are thousands of space movies out there and I would bet, 99% of them show that space is not safe


The point isn't that space should be safe, that's what none of you get, the point is you get to attack people without any repercussions especially if people are playing the game in small gangs or solo and that's what pisses people off.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#78 - 2012-02-09 19:14:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Valei Khurelem wrote:
Lyron-Baktos wrote:
I just don't get why people think a space game should have 100% safe spots. There are thousands of space movies out there and I would bet, 99% of them show that space is not safe


The point isn't that space should be safe, that's what none of you get, the point is you get to attack people without any repercussions especially if people are playing the game in small gangs or solo and that's what pisses people off.


But there ARE repercussions... you just don't think they are severe enough.

Most people think that they ARE severe enough, especially if the most basic steps are taken to ensure that you do not become a victim.

Game mechanics should never prevent your ship from being destroyable if you insist on sitting in one spot, in a vulnerable ship, fitted purely for maximum profit, with no thought devoted to defense or evasion should you be attacked.

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OldMan Gana
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#79 - 2012-02-09 19:18:45 UTC
4 pages too.....

Love United- Hate Glazer

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#80 - 2012-02-09 19:23:18 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Lady Vella seems to know a bit about eve's game mechanics. She also appears to have an alt. The alt appears to be into pvp.

Nice catch!

Valei Khurelem wrote:
This is why a large number of EVE players aren't bothering coming to the forums anymore

Good, the fewer hisec nobodies who come to the forums means the fewer who pay attention to CSM and thus will be in for a pleasant surprise when the next round of hisec nerfs are announced. Big smile


Yeah, he beat me to it.

I'd like to give the OP troll points... but this one doesn't really make it all the way into the ranking system except possibly as an honorable mention.

Still...




The question is: Why?

Why would someone with an alt who is into PVP try a troll thread like this?

Is there some kind of disease going around? I try to find a reason to do something like this, based on some kind of reward, and can't think of any.

To fully understand the troll mind might be difficult, like trying to understand a pathological liar perhaps.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!