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What happen to Faction spawns?
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Andre2000
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2011-09-17 00:08:31 UTC
Did I miss something. Do faction spawns still occur in anomalies?
Luciffer 13
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2011-09-17 00:17:00 UTC
If you did five anomalies and didnt get faction spawn i think you should petition.
Andre2000
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-09-17 00:51:42 UTC
Thanks
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#4 - 2011-09-17 02:45:07 UTC
Exploration is broken! *shocked face*

In all actuality, faction spawns aren't broken, you're just having a run of bad luck. Come back with 500-1000 datapoints per anom and solid records of their drops and the lack of any faction spawns at all and anoms will be reclassified to code orange, "there's a decent chance something screwy's going on".
Cunane Jeran
#5 - 2011-09-17 03:30:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Cunane Jeran
Luck based. Your just on a bad run, you could not see a faction spawn for the next 1000 sites you run and it still would not be broken, its just lady luck ******* on your face.
Kerppe Krulli
Doomheim
#6 - 2011-09-18 03:26:25 UTC
Cunane Jeran wrote:
Luck based. Your just on a bad run, you could not see a faction spawn for the next 1000 sites you run and it still would not be broken, its just lady luck ******* on your face.


If you ran 1000 sites and received nothing then it IS broken, that is the definition of broken.
Andre2000
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-09-19 02:27:27 UTC
Thanks guys for the answers, I petition CCP over a day ago with no response. Well at least the community is willing to answer my question...
syphurous
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2011-09-19 03:46:31 UTC
INB4 Working as intended.
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#9 - 2011-09-19 03:51:03 UTC
Andre2000 wrote:
Thanks guys for the answers, I petition CCP over a day ago with no response. Well at least the community is willing to answer my question...


lmao

stop wasting petitions on stupid things
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2011-09-19 05:19:41 UTC
If you have a 1% chance of a spawn happening each time you do a site, this does not mean if you do a site 100 times you will get a spawn. The probability of each event is independent.

Though if you've done 1000 and no spawn/escalation either you're doing something wrong or someone at CCP really doesn't like you Smile
Logical Chaos
Very Italian People
The Initiative.
#11 - 2011-09-19 08:13:05 UTC
Kerppe Krulli wrote:
Cunane Jeran wrote:
Luck based. Your just on a bad run, you could not see a faction spawn for the next 1000 sites you run and it still would not be broken, its just lady luck ******* on your face.


If you ran 1000 sites and received nothing then it IS broken, that is the definition of broken.


No, because others could have faction spawns in every site :P Nothing is guaranteed.
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2011-09-19 08:32:37 UTC
Logical Chaos wrote:
Kerppe Krulli wrote:
Cunane Jeran wrote:
Luck based. Your just on a bad run, you could not see a faction spawn for the next 1000 sites you run and it still would not be broken, its just lady luck ******* on your face.


If you ran 1000 sites and received nothing then it IS broken, that is the definition of broken.


No, because others could have faction spawns in every site :P Nothing is guaranteed.


Everytime you make an exploration whine, CCP gives your faction spawns and loot to someone else?
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2011-09-19 08:54:29 UTC
Cunane Jeran wrote:
Luck based. Your just on a bad run, you could not see a faction spawn for the next 1000 sites you run and it still would not be broken, its just lady luck ******* on your face.


If the change of a faction spawn is about 1 in 20, then the odds of not getting one for 1000 sites in a row is about 5x10^-23, which is some really, really bad luck.
Usurpine
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2011-09-19 11:08:34 UTC
So how a player ever knows if something is broken ?
Because we do know, eve is not perfect, at least i know for sure.

You can always argument with bad luck.
Cyniac
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2011-09-19 11:16:07 UTC
Usurpine wrote:
So how a player ever knows if something is broken ?
Because we do know, eve is not perfect, at least i know for sure.

You can always argument with bad luck.


Statistics. Seem to do the trick every time.
Apollo-Moor
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2011-09-19 11:18:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Apollo-Moor
At 1% you'd have to do 10,000 and that only gives ya 100% of getting the spawn.. then you take in the chance of a decent dropUgh..

Kudos

The same reason you only play one lotto number has a better chance to hit than that.. lol idk not really.. just tolling now
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2011-09-19 13:48:34 UTC
Usurpine wrote:
So how a player ever knows if something is broken ?
Because we do know, eve is not perfect, at least i know for sure.

You can always argument with bad luck.

Consider the statement:
"Faction spawns no longer occur in anomalies."

To prove this true, you would have to observe that every anomaly run by every character in game did not have a faction spawn.
But to prove it wrong, you would only need one counter-example of a faction spawn occurring in an anomaly.

There is no such thing as 100% when it comes to random, also EVE is not fair, etc.
Anuthahoodedguy
Doomheim
#18 - 2011-09-19 13:55:53 UTC
Look at all the fail trolls. The OP is 2 questions, no statements. The question was "do faction spawns still occur in anomalies?" Not one of you answered, you just went off on the traditional statistics rant. Do any of you actually know the answer? No. You're too busy typing on the forums to play the game. Fail trolls are fail.
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#19 - 2011-09-19 14:04:23 UTC
Anuthahoodedguy wrote:
Look at all the fail trolls. The OP is 2 questions, no statements. The question was "do faction spawns still occur in anomalies?" Not one of you answered, you just went off on the traditional statistics rant. Do any of you actually know the answer? No. You're too busy typing on the forums to play the game. Fail trolls are fail.



I was helping a new player in Test do anomalies for the first time yesterday and we got a faction spawn.

The point is, op is questioning something that has a stupidly low probability because he is frustrated he's not getting any shiny toys.

Meanwhile, you are being the white knight of stupidity and ignorance.

PS: if you're responding to trolls, the trolls didn't fail. You did.
Merphesh
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2011-09-19 14:17:29 UTC
Actually try running anom's straight after DT. I got a whopper today from a haven, first time I have got a rattlesnake bpc, crystal beta and a dg warp scrambler plus two types of ammo.
I normally find running 15-20 havens a day you get at least 2-3.

Hope that helps.
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