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Salvaging V?
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Callista Nueva
Bustin Space Rocks INC.
Caldari Alliance
#1 - 2012-02-06 15:46:12 UTC
Ok so i have the skill's for my noctis and i am now 3Days away from salvaging V where i could use salvager II's but currently im aiming towards skills for better drones and Caldari battleship skills, would it be worth leveling up Salvaging to V?

Just because i see things in a differant viewpoint does not make me paranoid it makes me a bit obsolete in the majorities views.

Aand i do love the thought of Using repair drones as bait O:
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#2 - 2012-02-06 15:52:04 UTC
Callista Nueva wrote:
Ok so i have the skill's for my noctis and i am now 3Days away from salvaging V where i could use salvager II's but currently im aiming towards skills for better drones and Caldari battleship skills, would it be worth leveling up Salvaging to V?


Higher Salvaging skill means that you get that which there is faster.

You don't get better salvage. That's very important to understand. Nor do you get more salvage.

Some wrecks, however, are "born" with a built-in salvage chance penalty, and if your total salvage chance, after being modified by this penalty, is 0% or less, you'll never get the salvage from those wrecks. Also, of course, if the salvage chance for such wrecks is very low, such as 5%, then you're looking at a high average amount of failed cycles, so salvaging will be slow.

As I understand it, though, wrecks with a salvage chance penalty are rare.

Also, unmodified by rigs, what you can compare is Salvaging skill 4 which gives you a 20% salvage chance, compared to Salvaging 5 which lets you use T2 Salvagers so that your salvage chance is 35%. I like having 35% on my Noctis character, but 20% is probably enough. Even if some very rare wrecks gives you -15%, you'll still get the salvage, with some patience.
myFORUMalt alts
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-02-06 18:11:10 UTC
t2 salvagers are critical for faction or officer spawns. You can not salvage a faction spawn without t2 salvagers. Its totally worth it.

Also, drone skills. I have one toon that is a drone monster, and one toon that is a missile/caldari monster. Im not happy with either. Im training both to get into minmatar and projectiles. My advice, get into a mach or a vargur

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#4 - 2012-02-06 19:35:57 UTC
Callista Nueva wrote:
Ok so i have the skill's for my noctis and i am now 3Days away from salvaging V where i could use salvager II's but currently im aiming towards skills for better drones and Caldari battleship skills, would it be worth leveling up Salvaging to V?


If you're only 3 days away, you might as well get it. Silly not to really. T2 salvagers really are a step up from T1@ level 4, nearly twice as good (20% vs 35% basic chance)

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Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#5 - 2012-02-06 21:20:35 UTC
Malcanis wrote:

If you're only 3 days away, you might as well get it. Silly not to really.

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Marsan
#6 - 2012-02-06 23:17:22 UTC
A lot of sleeper wrecks in worm hole space need level V.

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John DaiSho
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-02-07 14:43:04 UTC
Thats not true, Salvaging 4 and Salvaging Rigs are enough for all Sleeper Wrecks.
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-02-07 15:59:38 UTC
Personally I found the difference between T1 Salvagers and T2 Salvagers totally worth the time it took to train.

You don't get more or better salvage but you do salvage quicker which is always nice.
The Djego
Hellequin Inc.
#9 - 2012-02-07 17:18:10 UTC
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
t2 salvagers are critical for faction or officer spawns. You can not salvage a faction spawn without t2 salvagers. Its totally worth it.


You only need salvaging 4 and T1 for them(-15% salvage chance and you got 20%).

The T1 salvager with salvaging 4 got a salvage chance of 20%, a T2 salvager with salvaging 5 got 35% salvage chance. So basically you go down from 50 to 30s per wreck what is kind of a time saver in pve.

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CausticS0da
Shrubbery Acquisitions
Blohm and Voss Shipyards Alliance
#10 - 2012-02-08 06:25:30 UTC
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
t2 salvagers are critical for faction or officer spawns. You can not salvage a faction spawn without t2 salvagers.


You're wrong. Again.


Start posting on your main.
Luh Windan
green fish hat bang bang
#11 - 2012-02-08 09:07:17 UTC
Worth 3 days yes. The T2 feel a lot faster and given how boring (or stressful when you know you need to gtfo as soon as possible) can be I would go for it.
DIsposible Hero
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-02-09 02:09:10 UTC
Confirming i've gotten intact armor plates off a faction rat wreck with salvaging 4. I've never seen the need to upgrade to salvaging 5, but then I don't salvage that often.
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2012-02-09 02:57:09 UTC
Marsan wrote:
A lot of sleeper wrecks in worm hole space need level V.


I think salvage V is well worth it, but not because it will let you access certain sleeper wrecks. IIRC that threshold is at salvage IV.

Salvage V gives you T2 salvagers and they, in turn, make any salvaging job quicker ... simply by increasing the probability of successful salvage at the end of each cycle. With two T2 salvagers on it even the most recalcitrant wreck rarely persists beyond one cycle.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#14 - 2012-02-09 03:10:07 UTC
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
t2 salvagers are critical for faction or officer spawns. You can not salvage a faction spawn without t2 salvagers. Its totally worth it.

Also, drone skills. I have one toon that is a drone monster, and one toon that is a missile/caldari monster. Im not happy with either. Im training both to get into minmatar and projectiles. My advice, get into a mach or a vargur


You'd be happy if you had one toon that could do both. Gurista FTW!
Deathwing Malevolent
The Unclaimed
Unclaimable
#15 - 2012-02-09 14:23:52 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Callista Nueva wrote:
Ok so i have the skill's for my noctis and i am now 3Days away from salvaging V where i could use salvager II's but currently im aiming towards skills for better drones and Caldari battleship skills, would it be worth leveling up Salvaging to V?


If you're only 3 days away, you might as well get it. Silly not to really. T2 salvagers really are a step up from T1@ level 4, nearly twice as good (20% vs 35% basic chance)


Agreed - I went for Salvaging V pretty soon in the game as I used it a lot at the time. I still love salvaging, and if you're only 3 days from completion, it's definitely worth finishing the skills.
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-02-09 16:42:07 UTC
You need salvaging 5 for that sexy cartographer elite cert. Long term, if that is something you'd like, its worth it. If you like salvaging to make money it's worth it. If you rarely salvage then 4 is good 'nuff.