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Final Results for the Custom Ship Painting Survey

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T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
#1 - 2012-02-09 10:19:16 UTC  |  Edited by: T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
Hi,


Since the creation of eve players have wanted to be able to customise their ships, add corp logos and define themselves by the ship they fly. With the advent of the new PGS texturing system and CCPs much more amiable stance on player desires it is more likely than ever to become a reality in game. Over the years many ideas and arguments have been put forth on this topic in a thousand different threads from as many players but nothing solid has really come about from all these discussions.

The biggest considerations that need to be taken into consideration are: is this feature worth the potential cost to your client and the eve server and how can it be implimented in such a way that Eve's Art direction isn't compromised and so that your video card doesn't go into meltdown? If you're for this feature, don't be too sad, there are solutions to these problems although compromises would need to be made (such as restricting colours and allowing no unique designs) and the cost to the server is actually quite minimal if done correctly.

Thank you to the 1,682 participants who took part in the Survey I made for this post, here are the results:


Which of the following answers best describes how you feel about Ship Customisation?
-I'd like to be able to customise my ship's visual appearance but not at the expense of server load - 1038 (64.6%)
-I'd like to be able to customise my ship's visual appearance and I don't care how its done or what it costs, aslong as it happens - 358 (22.3%)
-I'm not interested in ship customisation, CCP's time would be best spent elsewhere. - 115 (7.2%))
-I'm not interested in ship customisation but I don't mind if they introduced it to the game - 95 (5.9%)


Customisation Options
-The colour options you can chose from to paint your ship should be restricted by the hulls class or race so that Eve's art integrity is left intact - 773 (48.9%)
-There should be an unrestricted amount of colour options for repainting my ship - 395 (25.0%)
-There should be an unrestricted amount of colour options for repainting my ship excluding colour reserved for t2 variants of that hull - 282 (17.8%)
-Paint options should be restricted to pre-designed themes made by CCP staff Members - 130 (8.2%)


Customisation Availability
-I should be able to customise any ship - 1292 (81.8%)
-Only T1 hulls should be able to have custom paintjobs - 159 (10.1%)
-A limited amount of existing ships should be able to be customised - 86 (5.4%)
-A new type or class of ship based off existing hulls should be created and only those can be customised - 28 (1.8%)
-A new type or class of ship should be created and only they can be customised - 15 (0.9%)


Payment Methods
-I should be able to pay for this service directly with isk - 982 (61.9%)
-This service should not be restricted to a specific model - 284 (17.9%)
-This service should use a mixed payment method - 192 (12.1%)
-This service should cost Aurum only - 119 (7.5%)
-This service should use a Plex payment model only - 9 (0.6%)


Ship Destruction
-Ship destruction destroys the ship but not any custom designs applied to it, so they can be used on another ship later - 834 (52.7%)
-Ship destruction should completely destroy any custom designs applied to it - 750 (47.3%)


Customisation and Design Rights
-Everyone should have the same rights to designs and colouring options - 875 (55.3%)
-Pilots, Corporations and Alliances should be able to buy the rights to a specific design with upkeep costs - 707 (44.7%)


Client Options
-Pilots should be able to turn this feature off - 900 (58.9%)
-Pilots should be able to turn off some features, but it should still be obvious that a ship has been customised - 483 (31.6%)
-Pilots should not able to turn this feature off - 145 (9.5%)


The Market
-Customised ships should be able to be sold or traded - 1163 (76.1%)
-Customised ships should not be able to be sold or traded - 365 (23.9%)


Manufacturing
-You should only be able to design a custom ship from within a specially designed menu - 539 (35.2%)
-I don't know how the mechanics of this feature would work, I trust CCP to figure it out - 448 (29.3%)
-I should be able to customise my ship with new items that are tradable on the market, can be fit onto new slots on my ship, and created using normal manufacturing methods. - 319 (20.8%)
-I don't care how its done as long as I can customise my ship - 225 (14.7%)


You can still take part in the survey here: www.shipsofeve.com


Regards,
T'amber

www.shipsofeve.com

Jita Alt666
#2 - 2012-02-09 10:22:50 UTC
T'amber for CSM7
Gerrick Palivorn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-02-09 10:25:13 UTC


Is that a IV in the Tech level indicators on the Pictures.

This should be interesting...

MMOs come and go, but Eve remains.  -Garresh-

Jace Errata
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-02-09 10:34:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Jace Errata
I think you accidentally copied the wrong link for the survey...


seriouslythough
I think it's a pretty great idea, especially the Body Shop idea in the picture.

(Hurricane, red with dark grey highlights, 1280x1024)

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It's such a shame the same will never happen to you

T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
#5 - 2012-02-09 10:36:02 UTC  |  Edited by: T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
c.1800 participants still required. :)

Which of the following answers best describes how you feel about Ship Customisation?
-I'd like to be able to customise my ship's visual appearance but not at the expense of server load(65.6%)
-I'd like to be able to customise my ship's visual appearance and I don't care how its done or what it costs, aslong as it happens(21.7%)
-I'm not interested in ship customisation but I don't mind if they introduced it to the game(8.3%)
-I'm not interested in ship customisation, CCP's time would be best spent elsewhere.(4.3%)

Customisation Options
-The colour options you can chose from to paint your ship should be restricted by the hulls class or race so that Eve's art integrity is left intact(49.0%)
-There should be an unrestricted amount of colour options for repainting my ship(25.4%)
-There should be an unrestricted amount of colour options for repainting my ship excluding colour reserved for t2 variants of that hull(17.8%)
-Paint options should be restricted to pre-designed themes made by CCP staff Members(7.8%)

Customisation Availability
-I should be able to customise any ship(81.4%)
-Only T1 hulls should be able to have custom paintjobs(10.0%)
-A limited amount of existing ships should be able to be customised(5.9%)
-A new type or class of ship based off existing hulls should be created and only those can be customised(1.7%)
-A new type or class of ship should be created and only they can be customised(0.9%)

Payment Methods
-I should be able to pay for this service directly with isk(61.7%)
-This service should not be restricted to a specific model(18.1%)
-This service should use a mixed payment method(13.0%)
-This service should cost Aurum only(6.8%)
-This service should use a Plex payment model only(0.4%)

Ship Destruction
-Ship destruction should completely destroy any custom designs applied to it(50.1%)
-Ship destruction destroys the ship but not any custom designs applied to it, so they can be used on another ship later(49.9%)

Customisation and Design Rights
-Everyone should have the same rights to designs and colouring options(53.3%)
-Pilots, Corporations and Alliances should be able to buy the rights to a specific design with upkeep costs(46.7%)

Client Options
-Pilots should be able to turn this feature off(58.2%)
-Pilots should be able to turn off some features, but it should still be obvious that a ship has been customised(31.5%)
-Pilots should not able to turn this feature off(10.3%)

The Market
-Customised ships should be able to be sold or traded(77.3%)
-Customised ships should not be able to be sold or traded(22.7%)

Manufacturing
-You should only be able to design a custom ship from within a specially designed menu(33.6%)
-I don't know how the mechanics of this feature would work, I trust CCP to figure it out(28.2%)
-I should be able to customise my ship with new items that are tradable on the market, can be fit onto new slots on my ship, and created using normal manufacturing methods.(22.9%)
-I don't care how its done as long as I can customise my ship(15.3%)

www.shipsofeve.com

Sweetest Kiss
#6 - 2012-02-09 10:38:40 UTC
Would be absolutely great, but I do hope all these customizable features will be VERY expansive, like 50Mil ISK per logo you upload and so forth.

Right now with the removal of most NPC sell orders there are just not enough ISK sinks left in Eve.
Renturu
In Glorium et Decorum
#7 - 2012-02-09 10:53:01 UTC
Kronos with Silver and Navy Blue.

Oh, and T'Amber for CSM7!!!

By the orders of PlunderBunny: ☻/ /▌ / \ This is Bob, post him into your forum sig and help him conquer the forums.

Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-02-09 11:00:56 UTC
Sweetest Kiss wrote:
Would be absolutely great, but I do hope all these customizable features will be VERY expansive, like 50Mil ISK per logo you upload and so forth.

Right now with the removal of most NPC sell orders there are just not enough ISK sinks left in Eve.

That's if CCP don't decide to put AURs into the mix.

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave

Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#9 - 2012-02-09 11:07:54 UTC
I was disappointed when I realised that there is nothing unique in spaceships of EVE, they don't have the sense of identity like RL ships have.

The point of this game is to fly spaceships and shoot others with lazorssss and misls until explosions happen. When you fly in space, you see your ship, not the cockpit and stars. In other MMOs you see your character, in EVE the ships is your character in a way. Of course in combat you need to zoom out, but you still use "Look at" all the time on other ships, and :shipspin:

You can name your ships. You succeed in your ship and get emotionally attached to it- yes, that particular hull eventually gets blown up, but most people buy a new one, fit it in the same way, making it essentially the "same" ship.

So why not capitalize on this, and increase the emotional attachment by allowing customisation. Once my Talos is Ferrari red, it's less like the other 189200 Taloses currently flying in space, it's my very special internet spaceship. It would be super cool to have the ship name painted on the hull too.

Corp colours and logos would (will, please, will!) increase male-bonding factor in fleets by 239%. Just imagine the sight of a full battleship fleet in war paint, I'm imagining 60 pink Brutixes right now.

I bet the average player has one or two special ships, maybe more expensive than the everyday ones, with some more pimp, you know, the sunday ride that only gets undocked on special occasions. Not being able to pimp this is wrong and makes no sense :(


tl,dr; moar ship pr0n!

.

My Postman
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-02-09 11:08:31 UTC
Are you THE T´Amber who quitted EVE some time ago? If yes, welcome back, if no nevermind. Oh, and if yes CSM 7.

Forgot: Not sure, Myrm or Ishtar.
Mai Khumm
172.0.0.1
#11 - 2012-02-09 11:16:57 UTC
This looks interesting...
Tora Bushido
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#12 - 2012-02-09 11:21:19 UTC
Nice survey dude....+1Lol

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

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Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#13 - 2012-02-09 11:24:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Meryl SinGarda
YES! This has to happen. There's no reason it shouldn't. I can see it now - I'm flying my Drake around Caldari space, flippin' some cans, shooting some noobs, but wait, what's that? THAT DRAKE IS HOT PINK WITH BLACK STRIPES, AND FLIPPIN' B.U.T.T. IS STREAKED ACROSS ITS SIDE! (that was my favorite ship and custom design, by the way ;p)
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-02-09 11:28:32 UTC
Another fake thread ? O_o
Heimdallofasgard
Ministry of Furious Retribution
Insidious.
#15 - 2012-02-09 11:41:35 UTC
+1 so long as not a nex item :)
Vyktor Abyss
Abyss Research
#16 - 2012-02-09 11:41:56 UTC
Last question of your survey could do with another option or two...

I'd like to see 'design outlets' where specialists ship painters (players in game) can perhaps buy/patent blueprints for their specific designs....

However having people pay 'upkeep' disgusts me. You paint something once and it is done until you repaint it, you dont keep paying some sort of license.

Still badly want this though. It adds a lot to the game and removes little - so long as its not Aurum or Plex based payment.
Lady Aja
#17 - 2012-02-09 11:44:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Lady Aja
i think all changes as far as this is concered should be client side.. with the option not to have other players laggign your client out when you undock from jita. etc etc ,

as for ship...

talos 1920x1080 tyvm t'amber
where is my ability to link a sig properly CCP you munters!!
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#18 - 2012-02-09 11:53:19 UTC
As long as it doesn't worsen large fleets jumping in (or any other situation) and is part of the player economy and not from the nex store then why not.

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Eve Is Real
#19 - 2012-02-09 11:54:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Eve Is Real
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
#20 - 2012-02-09 11:57:07 UTC
Vyktor Abyss wrote:
Last question of your survey could do with another option or two...

I'd like to see 'design outlets' where specialists ship painters (players in game) can perhaps buy/patent blueprints for their specific designs....

However having people pay 'upkeep' disgusts me. You paint something once and it is done until you repaint it, you dont keep paying some sort of license.

Still badly want this though. It adds a lot to the game and removes little - so long as its not Aurum or Plex based payment.


Hi,

I was going to add another question or two regarding actual mechanics and sub professions but decided to leave it for the next one. Maybe I should have included it :| There's just so many options for how it could be executed

www.shipsofeve.com

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