Player Features and Ideas Discussion

High sec, especially since incursions, has far to much reward for far too little risk.

I propose the following change in order to fix this, for the benefit of all Eve players, as it will bring true balance to the game in regards to risk vs. reward.

For each 10mil isk lost, 10 hours of subscription time is taken off that players account.

This would do heavy damage to botters and incursion farmers, as when they lose their bots and farming ships, they would be getting several days cut off of their account time. If they want it back, they can pay for it. Botters could effectively be kicked out of the game by other players who refuse to let that sort of activity ruin high-sec.

The time lost should also scale with the system security status, to where there is no time lost if the security status off the system the loss takes place in is less than 0.5

If you want to balance the ISK/risk ratio, it'd be a lot easier to simply reduce various ISK faucets in high-sec. Quick fixes- scale bounties based on system security level. Bounties in 0.5 space would be higher than those in 1.0 space, but significantly lower than what is found in nullsec. As it takes roughly 25-30 secs for CONCORD to respond in 0.5 space, I could see a boost in ISK flow for that security level, but overall there should be a reduction in ISK faucets in high-sec.

Are you ******* kidding me? THIS is your solution? If I like to PvP, should I lose time off my account for losing a ship in actual combat? What about if I wardec someone or they wardec me, should we lose time off our accounts? How about falling for a scam, should I lose time off my account?

What the hell has to be coursing through your veins to come up with an idea this blatantly stupid? You pay RL money for the game - you shouldn't lose that money just because you're not very good at the game, or get ganked, or... the list goes on and on.

Please, for the benefit of the entire EVE community, biomass yourself at the earliest opportunity. No good will come of you.

There should never be any mechanic in any game that takes off subscription time after you've already paid it. You will have alot of pissed off customers and lost subscriptions. This is a horrible idea, just horrible.

If I paid for 30 days game time, I damn well better get 30 days game time. Period.

Fixed for accuracy, can I get a 10/10?

I actually don't support the idea I posted. I posed it because the current forum climate is populated heavily with people who espouse similar beliefs on how game play mechanics should be. I figured they'd be all over this idea like flies on ****, because it would be yet another way to extend the "tear extraction". Hulks and freighters would become measured not in isk loss, but in actual dollars lost. Same game mechanics, but I put hard currency on the line.

Reading the replies here, however, it's nice to know some people around here still have souls.

I think the problem was that you assumed those that are against making Eve easier, in terms of providing complete safety or high ISK rewards in high sec, are merely doing it in the spirit of "tear extraction". The reality is that we simply like Eve being a difficult game, even when those difficulties negatively effect us too.

You know.. as a Null-sec resident, sure I have access to all the 'blue' regions intel channels, and then the general campaign intel channels, then the alliance channels, and squad channels, and local and all that- in Nullsec do you have any idea how easy it is to not pay attention to local? Even with the new condensed list, its easy to miss a neutral flying through system.

Null-sec is risky aside from the free-intel you get from local (this is such a bullshit argument); just because someone is announced in an intel channel doesn't force anyone to dock, and in most times, theres just as many people looking for kills as there are people running anoms/mining/POShumping/Incursioning. It is kind of displeasing that since the anomaly nerf, the 'average player' in null sec makes about 60-70m an hour, when a High Sec incursion runner makes what? 90-120m per hour? Without a single care in the world.

High sec needs to have its rewards lowered to match the relative safe haven that it is. You can't be wardec'd if you don't want to be, suicide ganking is going to happen anyway if you make yourself a target, and other then that your free to do, pretty much whatever boring excuse for entertainment you do in Empire.

In before some asshat says that casuals can't play in Nullsec, which is utter trash. Find a stable alliance, and enjoy.

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