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So I dodged a shameless 0.0 ganker today
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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#81 - 2012-02-08 18:02:44 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:
There are currently 38,564 active players on the EVE server right now, I laugh at your majority.



I am Jack's lack of surprise. Are all 38,564 players voicing their comment in this thread?

Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel **IG OOPE **
Barron Hammerstrike
Medusa Nova Mining And Trade
#82 - 2012-02-08 18:08:03 UTC
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daring to do PvE in 0.0 space on my own


There's your problem. Just saying.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#83 - 2012-02-08 18:15:48 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:
If you think I'm a troll then why do you all keep posting? :)
Because for every genuine troll, there are 10 idiots who genuinely think the same thing so the best way to deal with a troll is to treat it like an idiot (and the best way to deal with an idiot is to try to educate it).
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#84 - 2012-02-08 18:18:31 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Valei Khurelem wrote:
If you think I'm a troll then why do you all keep posting? :)
Because for every genuine troll, there are 10 idiots who genuinely think the same thing so the best way to deal with a troll is to treat it like an idiot (and the best way to deal with an idiot is to try to educate it).


Exactly. We understand that learning can be a difficult and frustrating process but several of us in the community are here to teach you how to be a better player. Once you understand more of the mechanics of the game you will be able to enjoy it far more than you currently do.

Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel **IG OOPE **
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#85 - 2012-02-08 18:37:38 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Valei Khurelem wrote:
If you think I'm a troll then why do you all keep posting? :)
Because for every genuine troll, there are 10 idiots who genuinely think the same thing so the best way to deal with a troll is to treat it like an idiot (and the best way to deal with an idiot is to try to educate it).

I bow to your patience. Shocked Without wanting to try to emulate it.
Shad0wsFury
Sorry We're In Your Space Eh
Seventh Sanctum.
#86 - 2012-02-08 18:37:54 UTC
This is an excellent troll thread. I applaud you OP, and give you a 9/10.
Zirse
Risktech Analytics
#87 - 2012-02-08 18:40:04 UTC
Dare I say that in a sandbox you have to be a little creative?


People know where the mission hubs in nullsec are, of course there are going to be opportunists hanging out there.

It's not hard to find an participate in uninterrupted pve in null if you just use a little bit of brain matter.


My suggestion though would be to go play a theme park MMO. You seem to be one of those players who think a sub entitles them to unrestricted access to all facets of the game without having to put any effort it; the polar opposite of a sandbox or any healthy MMO.
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#88 - 2012-02-08 19:12:03 UTC
Tithi wrote:
Judging by the things he says in other threads, i actually don't know if this is a troll...

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=66842&p=3



Found another one.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=765962#post765962

I'm starting to think he didn't get away from this one bad 0.0 pilot. I mean physically yes, but it has appeared to have left some traumatizing scars, like that time when Peter got a prostate exam from Dr. Hartman.


.......


....


This is where we cue the flashback

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FeralShadow
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#89 - 2012-02-08 19:42:41 UTC
already flashed.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Killstealing
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#90 - 2012-02-08 19:47:07 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:
[quote=Cebraio]running around in someone elses space specifically to pod me on the excuse that I 'could' be scouting is like saying police should shoot people in hoodies on the basis they 'could' be part of a gang and about to bring all their friends along to kill them

This is actually how NBSI works and I suggest you get used to it or geeeet ooooout
Honnete Du Decimer
#91 - 2012-02-08 22:42:12 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
You really haven't been keeping up with the discussion, OP. If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times. People in 0.0 are trying to tilt the game to make everyone else roll down the table to them so they can gank them. YOU SEE, it gets awful lonely out there with no one to gank. Even Goonwaffle broke under the boredom and fell for some hair-brained scheme of Mitt's to corner the ice market by ganking hulks at ice belts. They just wanted an excuse to come back into the higher sec areas to have something to break up the tedium of watching each other in 0.0, or spinning their ship trying to keep that "I'm a bada$$ for being here" feeling alive.

0.0 people don't want company out there to make life rosy. They want victims. They're so bored they'll chase a pod around. They're going stir crazy out there. I guess you discovered that first hand, though.



+1

PMS [:p]
Serene Repose
#92 - 2012-02-09 00:55:16 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
Even Goonwaffle broke under the boredom and fell for some hair-brained scheme of Mitt's to corner the ice market by ganking hulks at ice belts.
What's hair-brained about hurting your opponents while making an absolute fsckton of money at a very small cost, all while having fun in the process?

Yeah, yeah. Some things look great on paper.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Ai Shun
#93 - 2012-02-09 01:30:24 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:
the point isn't survival the point is being able to progress and have fun, if I'm actually forced to log out of a game I have paid for because of another players actions, that isn't fun that's just stupid and unnecessary


Others have alluded to this, but despite the bluster I don't think you comprehend it yet.


  • He is defending his space.
  • This is fun for him.
  • Your arbitrary rules would remove his fun.
  • He would likely then log off and do something else.


Net result? He was forced to log out of a game he paid for because of another players actions. That is also stupid and unnecessary.

Yes, that makes a fair few assumptions; but it is done to illustrate why your statements are a tad hypocritical.
Zirse
Risktech Analytics
#94 - 2012-02-09 01:57:10 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
Even Goonwaffle broke under the boredom and fell for some hair-brained scheme of Mitt's to corner the ice market by ganking hulks at ice belts.
What's hair-brained about hurting your opponents while making an absolute fsckton of money at a very small cost, all while having fun in the process?

Yeah, yeah. Some things look great on paper.



You are so far from the truth it's laughable.


If people don't like sandboxes why do they feel it necessary to subscribe to EVE and **** up the forums with endless QQ. Go play swtor or something.
Jhan Niber
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#95 - 2012-02-09 02:29:41 UTC
Just remembered, they made a trailer about what you went through. You should watch it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGplrpWvz0I
Har Farst
OpSec.
Wrong Hole.
#96 - 2012-02-11 09:17:14 UTC
Ok, Easy fix to your situation...

Join the "ouch" corp. "open university of celestial hardship"

they teach nullsec survival, def helped a few of the guys in my alts corp get set up. and the stuff they teach you is definate gold when it comes to doing anyhting in 0.0


great service... chk it out
Valei Khurelem
#97 - 2012-02-11 09:45:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Valei Khurelem
Amazing how people call me hypocritical without any evidence and how this thread is still being kept going.

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Your arbitrary rules would remove his fun.


I don't want arbitrary rules, all I want is more options for payback, that's what you lot don't seem to get, apparently, if I'm a noob in 0.0 space and solo, I'm supposed to just roll over and die, when I choose to ignore that rule a bunch of players decide to throw a hissy fit and completely ignore what I've written responding as I've written something else entirely.

At this rate, purely because of their attitudes and unwillingness to change 0.0 and low sec will remain dead forever.

Unlike you lot, I actually have evidence to back up what I say, a simple look on the map with pilot activity filtered proves I'm right.

http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m602/Lethn/EVE7.jpg

Guess where the highest concentration of players is?

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium
Ai Shun
#98 - 2012-02-11 09:57:53 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:
I don't want arbitrary rules, all I want is more options for payback, that's what you lot don't seem to get, apparently, if I'm a noob in 0.0 space and solo, I'm supposed to just roll over and die, when I choose to ignore that rule a bunch of players decide to throw a hissy fit and completely ignore what I've written responding as I've written something else entirely.


Yeah. I have the memory of a goldfish and never got past that one post.


Valei Khurelem wrote:
First, this isn't how a game should be, you may as well just show cinematics of noob frigates being killed constantly and gain ISK and skill points just for that. I should have the choice to not die and do as I please especially in a sandbox if it's not hurting anyone, I shouldn't be punished for subscribing later than the other guy which is what's happened here.


Valei Khurelem wrote:
What they should be doing is making PvE in 0.0 space much easier and more rewarding since the threat of gankers being everywhere alone is a lot to handle if you aren't in a corporation or alliance.


Several people listed options for you for payback. You kept on calling them trolls. It's actually fairly comedic.
Valei Khurelem
#99 - 2012-02-11 10:03:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Valei Khurelem
So you're idea of an argument is to quote me and write one line? how is what I've said hypocritical? All the options that have been listed are useless for small gangs and solo player as well as newbies, how is it practical for a noob to train for covert ops for 30 days and have nothing else to do but mission running or ratting? It just isn't.

it isn't the fault of newbies and carebears that no one plays your game it's people like you, you're all whining about high sec now because no ones willing to play by your rules anymore.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium
Hauling Hal
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#100 - 2012-02-11 13:57:27 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:
There are currently 38,564 active players on the EVE server right now, I laugh at your majority.




15/38,564 > 1/38,564, so it is the majority in this debate.