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ian papabear
No Regard.
#1 - 2012-02-08 10:33:35 UTC
so two nights i was sitting outside jita buying items for my nightmare, and low and behold out comes a thanotos undocking from jita 4 4.... it warped off to the cluster gates then came back and sat in front of the station and released all its fighters... i know that carriers were once built in high sec but from what im hearing they werent build in jita... so how did this player manage to have his carrier in jita?

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eddie valvetino
Victory or Whatever
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#2 - 2012-02-08 10:35:09 UTC
not sure

but i'm fairly sure using caps in combat in high sec is an exploit

Edd
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2012-02-08 10:37:03 UTC
That is a very old ship and has not been seen for quite some time.
Cebraio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-02-08 10:39:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Cebraio
Pretty sure they also have been built in Jita and they can stay there, if they stick to the rules.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#5 - 2012-02-08 11:48:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Chribba
That ship should be moved as it has never been "legal", that is a GM screwup.

Carriers have only been able to be produced in systems up to 0.7 (while the arrays were anchored) - and since Jita is 0.9 the only way for it to get there is it being reimbursed by a GM that didn't check the system.

Petition it.

/c

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-02-08 11:54:27 UTC
stranger things have happened

i.e. a nulli secunda titan in Rens (cripes)

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Cebraio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-02-08 12:12:29 UTC
Chribba wrote:
That ship should be moved as it has never been "legal", that is a GM screwup.

Carriers have only been able to be produced in systems up to 0.7 (while the arrays were anchored) - and since Jita is 0.9 the only way for it to get there is it being reimbursed by a GM that didn't check the system.

Petition it.

/c

Ok, I didn't know it wasn't built there. Still, I don't think its mere existence is a reason to petition and remove it. (Unless he used the fighters for combat.) Don't be so jealous about it Chribba. Blink

I think it's nice to have some capitals in high sec to show them to the new players.
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#8 - 2012-02-08 12:29:02 UTC
Cebraio wrote:

I think it's nice to have some capitals in high sec to show them to the new players.


As long as it was not used in combat, I'm sure quite a few of the newer players got a thrill seeing it there.

I also dont see a problem with it, gives the game some 'history'.

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#9 - 2012-02-08 13:03:42 UTC
No jealousy here, since i have my fleet of capitals in high-sec already. And while yes it's nice for new people to see them, imo it's all about the history and the rarity of said items and their history of days past.

GMs reimbursing them left and right (yeah I know that's not really the case) makes them less "historic" imo and it they don't really have any history, just a GM not paying attention when reimbursing a ship.

True ships are imo far more historic since they are the from the old days. New pilots can get the whole history of it as well, how at a point in time things could be built there, and even put a RP on it saying like concord changed the restrictions etc.

/c

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Dard Reguloni
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-02-08 13:05:48 UTC
I too saw it yesterday, not entirely sure how it got to Jita, as i don't think you were ever able to build cap ships in a .9 system. According to the article linked above,

"Please note that it was never possible to create Carriers in systems with security status higher than 0.7. Carriers that somehow find their way into 0.8 and higher will be moved into lowsec by Gamemasters"


It did not however aggress anyone. Simply showing off is not against the rules.
Cebraio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-02-08 13:12:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Cebraio
@Chribba: Good point, that the appearance of capitals in 0.8 and above actually contradicts the history of the whole carriers in Hi-Sec history.

But then what about the Veldnaught in Amarr? It would have to go as well?

Edit: I see, it was possible to build dreadnoughts in 1.0 back in 2005, but it's never been possible to build carriers in 0.8 and above.
Sverige Pahis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-02-08 13:46:35 UTC
Chribba wrote:
No jealousy here, since i have my fleet of capitals in high-sec already. And while yes it's nice for new people to see them, imo it's all about the history and the rarity of said items and their history of days past.

GMs reimbursing them left and right (yeah I know that's not really the case) makes them less "historic" imo and it they don't really have any history, just a GM not paying attention when reimbursing a ship.

True ships are imo far more historic since they are the from the old days. New pilots can get the whole history of it as well, how at a point in time things could be built there, and even put a RP on it saying like concord changed the restrictions etc.

/c




There's absolutely no reason why you should have a monopoly on capitals in highsec. You come off as jealous.
Ifly Uwalk
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-02-08 14:16:36 UTC
Sverige Pahis wrote:
Chribba wrote:
No jealousy here, since i have my fleet of capitals in high-sec already. And while yes it's nice for new people to see them, imo it's all about the history and the rarity of said items and their history of days past.

GMs reimbursing them left and right (yeah I know that's not really the case) makes them less "historic" imo and it they don't really have any history, just a GM not paying attention when reimbursing a ship.

True ships are imo far more historic since they are the from the old days. New pilots can get the whole history of it as well, how at a point in time things could be built there, and even put a RP on it saying like concord changed the restrictions etc.

/c




There's absolutely no reason why you should have a monopoly on capitals in highsec. You come off as jealous.

No he doesn't. He comes off as someone who's concerned about the history of high-sec capitals. I bet he has no problem with the Sobaseki Phoenix.
eddie valvetino
Victory or Whatever
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#14 - 2012-02-08 14:52:41 UTC
Jint Hikaru wrote:
Cebraio wrote:

I think it's nice to have some capitals in high sec to show them to the new players.


As long as it was not used in combat, I'm sure quite a few of the newer players got a thrill seeing it there.

I also dont see a problem with it, gives the game some 'history'.


I have to say, I fully agree with this, if the ship is not being used in combat or to assist combat ships, via reps, gang bonuses or any projected mods, does it really matter?

I also agree, that there is something pretty cool for a newer player to "see" their first capital ship, even better for them if they don't then die

Edd
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-02-08 16:10:08 UTC
Andski wrote:
stranger things have happened

i.e. a nulli secunda titan in Rens (cripes)



Party don't start till our titans jump in.

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Serene Repose
#16 - 2012-02-08 17:20:55 UTC
Chribba wrote:
No jealousy here, since i have my fleet of capitals in high-sec already. And while yes it's nice for new people to see them, imo it's all about the history and the rarity of said items and their history of days past.

GMs reimbursing them left and right (yeah I know that's not really the case) makes them less "historic" imo and it they don't really have any history, just a GM not paying attention when reimbursing a ship.

True ships are imo far more historic since they are the from the old days. New pilots can get the whole history of it as well, how at a point in time things could be built there, and even put a RP on it saying like concord changed the restrictions etc.

/c

Hear! Hear! Nice to learn someone gave folks a blast from the past...pardon the pun. It was merely a flyby.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group
#17 - 2012-02-08 18:06:23 UTC
Thread needs more tears bout a cap in jita. Who cares...

Worried about caps in HS, then move them *ALL* to lowsec.
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#18 - 2012-02-08 20:21:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Bloodpetal
Ifly Uwalk wrote:

No he doesn't. He comes off as someone who's concerned about the history of high-sec capitals. I bet he has no problem with the Sobaseki Phoenix.


Chribba jealousy is best jealousy.

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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#19 - 2012-02-08 20:42:31 UTC
Like this?

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R0Y4L
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-02-08 20:51:03 UTC
its fine .. anyone that had a capital in highsec before they made the changes/restrictions got to keep it there ...
there are 2 revs in amarr system that ive seen and a carrier aswell

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