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***Updated*** Silent Doger (Still playing) of Red Alliance admits to RMT
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Chiggy W
Hard-Luck Industries
#1 - 2012-02-08 16:48:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Chiggy W
Update -

It seems that despite publicly admitting to RMT, and numerous post's on various Eve sites, Silent Dodger hasn't been banned! He is still alive and kicking Here

I would like to take this opportunity to thank CCP for making an example of those who flaunt the rules and feed the RMT cancer. Oh wait, you haven't actually done anything! My bad, there I was thinking that this might be investigated, and given the scale of the self admitted rule breaking, and his account suspended until it could be proven one way or another.

It seems that CCP take RMT extremely seriously, and punish those involved almost immediately. I mean a guy stands up and publicly talks about RMT, and CCP stand by and do nothing.

That alone says more about CCP's willingness to fight RMT than any forum post they've ever made.

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Leader of RA admits to large scale RMT.

CCP, Ban this swine, and trace the ISK traded, and ban those involved. This is insane. The original recording (in Russian) is here

There are threads on K-u-gu.com and here linky

Someone has translated the meeting into english. See other threads for for full text as I have reached the character limit.

Quote:


When I came to work, i realized that, first of all, to have any say in anything there I would have had to work there for at least 20 years. Second of all, it's a system where, by default, you're assumed to be ****, and all your experience and knowledge is irrelevant – you just have to obey. My character isn't very good at obeying others. So, after three (3) months I quit the job, with my head held high, but my financial obligations remained.

And that was when I luckily, well, "luckily", met some people who were professionally involved with RMT. And they offered to help me. To convert ISK into real money. That was how it began. During the next 3 months I quietly moved ISK into real life money; my own, on my corporation's wallet, some people even donated. Who knew about my situation helped how they can.

Later what happened was that the ISK exchange rate fell, i.e. the lower the exchange rate, the more ISK I needed. Eventually in January I took 60kkk (60 BILLION) from the alliance wallet. I believe that if i hadn't done that, then RA financial situation right now would have been slightly better.[/b]

At the same time, I began to notice that I cannot lead fleets, because I join a fleet and do not know what to do. My pvp skill fell to zero because I basically didn't play since the northern campaign. Hence I couldn't demand anything from pilots.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#2 - 2012-02-08 16:50:16 UTC
/Sits back with popcorn and a tasty beverage.

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-02-08 17:14:06 UTC
/me waits for the lack of CCP response and grabs some of Fury's popcorn.

Don't ban me, bro!
Akatenshi Xi
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-02-08 17:16:09 UTC
We all already know this is what the major Russian powerblocks do with their isk. Surprise? No. Violation of ToS? Yes.
Ajita al Tchar
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-02-08 17:17:08 UTC
/waits for CCP to ban everyone involved, including those who donated ISK to the man knowing of his financial situation IRL, obviously with the assumption that he'll transfer said ISK to RL money.

/gets old waiting and dies
mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
#6 - 2012-02-08 17:31:27 UTC  |  Edited by: mechtech
Anyone involved in RMT (selling or buying) should be permabanned without a second chance. There should also be a permanent warning of this somewhere during the login process.

Stuff like this happens because the penalties are not severe enough. RMT kills MMOs.
Fuee
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-02-08 17:31:43 UTC
I actually posted that and it was all a lie.
Naga Elohim
Aeras Krekan Syndicate
#8 - 2012-02-08 17:34:09 UTC
CCP wants pics or it didn't happen.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#9 - 2012-02-08 17:35:25 UTC
And you consider a forum post worthy evidence? Soki would abuse the hell out of this if it worked.

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Chiggy W
Hard-Luck Industries
#10 - 2012-02-08 17:39:02 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
And you consider a forum post worthy evidence? Soki would abuse the hell out of this if it worked.


I actually consider the recording evidence, and the forums post in multiple forums simply as supporting evidence. I don't personally speak Russian, however the people I play with do. It has been verified on our internal alliance forums and matches what people are saying publicly, so I doubt it's a troll.
Othran
Route One
#11 - 2012-02-08 17:48:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Othran
Chiggy W wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
And you consider a forum post worthy evidence? Soki would abuse the hell out of this if it worked.


I actually consider the recording evidence, and the forums post in multiple forums simply as supporting evidence. I don't personally speak Russian, however the people I play with do. It has been verified on our internal alliance forums and matches what people are saying publicly, so I doubt it's a troll.


Its hardly new is it?

tl;dr alliance leader fecks off with a load of iskies for RMT, which of course has never happened before, not for houses or cars or medical bills. No sir. Roll
seany1212
M Y S T
#12 - 2012-02-08 17:50:34 UTC
INB4 CCP do nothing but lock thread.
namron 7
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-02-08 17:53:16 UTC
I thought it was well known that the russians like to pay the rent with this game.

Thanks for the help
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#14 - 2012-02-08 18:00:41 UTC
In before the topic gets moved to Forum lowsec.
Chiggy W
Hard-Luck Industries
#15 - 2012-02-08 18:01:54 UTC
namron 7 wrote:
I thought it was well known that the russians like to pay the rent with this game.


It's not only Russians that do this, however they are the most "obvious". The average RA member had nothing to do with this I'm sure, and are probably pretty angry about the fact that their hard earned ISK was used by the the leader they trusted for personal profit.

As for action from CCP, I doubt we will see any (apart from this thread being locked and a forum ban for me). It makes me angry that this goes on in game, and while CCP bleat on about how they fight the RMT trade, when something like this comes out, given the scale it's hard to believe that CCP are doing anything about it at all.

If it was a couple billion here and there, I could understand them missing it, but many billions over a year (including 60 Bil last month), plus numerous super caps and who knows what else. how do they miss this?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#16 - 2012-02-08 18:02:48 UTC
A russian selling isk? But that never happens!
Ira Theos
#17 - 2012-02-08 18:34:12 UTC
Hmm... According to those who responded to my numerous posts about Eve being saturated with RMT and Botting vermin, none of this sort of thing ever happens. No, really ! They assured me of the fact. So.... I guess there is nothing to see here. Right?

Now move along !
MNagy
Yo-Mama
#18 - 2012-02-08 18:46:20 UTC
For those of us who would have to go google what RMT stands for ( including me ) when it relates to online gaming...

Real Money Transfer
Duck Mouth
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2012-02-08 18:48:01 UTC
WOOO IN BEFORE THREAD LOCK!!!



Did anyone violate the TOS or EULA? no?

no ban...

move on... nothing to see here....
adopt
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-02-08 18:59:08 UTC
INB4 LOCK

Also what russian alliance doesn't RMT/bot.
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