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Fast way to make ISK?
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Beckie DeLey
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-02-07 16:23:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Beckie DeLey
If you want to make ISK, fast or otherwise, don't mine. Do something worthwhile and interesting instead. Sorry to say so, but the SP you put into Mining skills are only useful as a prereq to get into an Orca. ;)


Btw, a ship that's able to fly L2 missions costs like 1mill. 2mill if you get spendy on the fitting.

My siren's name is Brick and she is the prettiest.
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-02-07 17:31:21 UTC
Sin Pew wrote:
TheBlueMonkey wrote:
I heard the quickest way was to accept a courier contract, look inside the box, see billions of isk of material that only has a few mil colatoral on it.
Then fail the contract and sell the minerals.


Good idea...
- If someone's foolish enough to request only millions when shipping billions worth merchandise.
- Once you got the nose to avoid scam contracts.
- Once you have the cashflow to support the collateral to even accept the contract.
- Once you have a ship that can freight those highly valuable goods through any system and don't fear either suicide gank or blockades.


There was a storey a little while ago (that I can't find a link to) where a newbie found a courier contract with a very very low colatoral (think it was only a few mil) to move a small volume of "stuff" something pathetic like 10 jumps.

So the newbie looked in the package and found something like 60bil isk worth of megacyte (I forget the exact number)

Anyway,
his question was what's the fastest way to makes lots of isk... that's got to be it
Kessel Rock
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-02-07 18:38:59 UTC
Lyrka Bloodberry wrote:
What's that smell?

It smells like there is a "Someone ganked the Hulk I had all my money invested in and now I cannot afford a frigate" whine thread incoming.



Not really. Im still new to EVE. i wish i had all the skills for a hulk already but i don't.
Kessel Rock
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-02-07 18:40:52 UTC
TheBlueMonkey wrote:
Sin Pew wrote:
TheBlueMonkey wrote:
I heard the quickest way was to accept a courier contract, look inside the box, see billions of isk of material that only has a few mil colatoral on it.
Then fail the contract and sell the minerals.


Good idea...
- If someone's foolish enough to request only millions when shipping billions worth merchandise.
- Once you got the nose to avoid scam contracts.
- Once you have the cashflow to support the collateral to even accept the contract.
- Once you have a ship that can freight those highly valuable goods through any system and don't fear either suicide gank or blockades.


There was a storey a little while ago (that I can't find a link to) where a newbie found a courier contract with a very very low colatoral (think it was only a few mil) to move a small volume of "stuff" something pathetic like 10 jumps.

So the newbie looked in the package and found something like 60bil isk worth of megacyte (I forget the exact number)

Anyway,
his question was what's the fastest way to makes lots of isk... that's got to be it



How and where can i find these missions?

every one is saying that mining is low isk income. So then the question is what ship skills should i start traing?
Tari Tari
#25 - 2012-02-07 18:49:57 UTC
Kessel Rock wrote:

every one is saying that mining is low isk income. So then the question is what ship skills should i start traing?


Literally anything but mining. And that is not an exaggeration.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#26 - 2012-02-07 20:12:58 UTC
Kessel Rock wrote:
TheBlueMonkey wrote:
Sin Pew wrote:
TheBlueMonkey wrote:
I heard the quickest way was to accept a courier contract, look inside the box, see billions of isk of material that only has a few mil colatoral on it.
Then fail the contract and sell the minerals.


Good idea...
- If someone's foolish enough to request only millions when shipping billions worth merchandise.
- Once you got the nose to avoid scam contracts.
- Once you have the cashflow to support the collateral to even accept the contract.
- Once you have a ship that can freight those highly valuable goods through any system and don't fear either suicide gank or blockades.


There was a storey a little while ago (that I can't find a link to) where a newbie found a courier contract with a very very low colatoral (think it was only a few mil) to move a small volume of "stuff" something pathetic like 10 jumps.

So the newbie looked in the package and found something like 60bil isk worth of megacyte (I forget the exact number)

Anyway,
his question was what's the fastest way to makes lots of isk... that's got to be it



How and where can i find these missions?

every one is saying that mining is low isk income. So then the question is what ship skills should i start traing?


From what I recall of the courier contract jackpot, it was four contracts, each with a large collateral (1-4 billion). However, the contents were worth signicantly more than the collateral, so the pilot failed the contracts and ran off with the loot.

@ the op... There are several methods to quickly make significant isk in game, but they usually require a combination of scamming, trading, luck (Nullsec faction or officer spawns), and teamwork (WH's, Incursions, Hi-difficulty Plex).

Mining is a very passive form of making isk, usually very low stress and low profit. Here's a warning: if you put all of your iskies into a hulk this time of year (i.e. Hulkageddon is probably starting in the next month or so), then you're probably going to be a very sad panda when someone comes and destroys your hulk for the sport of it... Also, if you put 150m in modules on it... they'll destroy your hulk for the profit too... EVEN IN HISEC!!!!
Kessel Rock
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-02-08 15:13:27 UTC

From what I recall of the courier contract jackpot, it was four contracts, each with a large collateral (1-4 billion). However, the contents were worth signicantly more than the collateral, so the pilot failed the contracts and ran off with the loot.

@ the op... There are several methods to quickly make significant isk in game, but they usually require a combination of scamming, trading, luck (Nullsec faction or officer spawns), and teamwork (WH's, Incursions, Hi-difficulty Plex).

Mining is a very passive form of making isk, usually very low stress and low profit. Here's a warning: if you put all of your iskies into a hulk this time of year (i.e. Hulkageddon is probably starting in the next month or so), then you're probably going to be a very sad panda when someone comes and destroys your hulk for the sport of it... Also, if you put 150m in modules on it... they'll destroy your hulk for the profit too... EVEN IN HISEC!!!! [/quote]


Hulkageddon does not sound like fun. I'll pass on that and start training more combat releated skills. I'm saving for a Drake at the moment. I love missels :)
Liam Mirren
#28 - 2012-02-08 16:59:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Liam Mirren
PPl shooting your hulk is always happening, not just during hulkageddon. It's also not very difficult to avoid.

Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#29 - 2012-02-08 17:00:26 UTC  |  Edited by: mxzf
Liam Mirren wrote:
You just messed up, you replied with the same alt answering your own questions from the OP.


lol, yeah, that was funny. I was just about to point it out myself.

Edit: Though, looking back at it, it could also be a botched quote.
Liam Mirren
#30 - 2012-02-08 17:01:01 UTC
mxzf wrote:
Liam Mirren wrote:
You just messed up, you replied with the same alt answering your own questions from the OP.


lol, yeah, that was funny. I was just about to point it out myself.


Yeah, I reread that, then realised he made a bad quote.

Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-02-08 17:01:52 UTC
Get a huricane, projectiles are better ;)
Kessel Rock
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-02-08 17:47:12 UTC
Liam Mirren wrote:
mxzf wrote:
Liam Mirren wrote:
You just messed up, you replied with the same alt answering your own questions from the OP.


lol, yeah, that was funny. I was just about to point it out myself.


Yeah, I reread that, then realised he made a bad quote.



Sorry about that i deleted to much. I didnt want to Quote a 1 page reply lol, Sorry about that.
OfBalance
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-02-08 20:40:34 UTC  |  Edited by: OfBalance
Let me tell you about mining skills...

THEY SIMPLY WON'T GO AWAY NO MATTER HOW HARD I SCRUB! EvilEvilSad

In other words, take anyone's advice here, just stop mining. They aren't joking when they say you'll look back on those skills months or years later and want to punch yourself in the nose. [/selfloathing]
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-02-09 10:55:13 UTC
Yep as a former hardcore miner in high-sec my advice: Don't get your hopes up too much, high-sec mining sucks. If your lucky (meaning: fully boosting Orca with you, T2 strips with T2 crystals) you might get about 20mil/hour as income. This same amount of money is easily collected running missions (level 2 mission only require a cruiser to be done effectively) and level 3's can be done in cruiser or battlecruiser later on. And mining won't get you the standings for higher missions while running missions itself means you get higher standing, which in the end mean, higher rewards from agents and higher mission levels.

Yes, I still mine from time to time, but that is never in high-sec, the only place I find worthy of mining is null-sec with full boosting Rorq in fleet. Then it is "worthwhile" to mine, it still lacks income over ratting in null-sec but someone has to make the PvP ships that get blown up while fighting.

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Kessel Rock
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-02-09 13:06:28 UTC
OfBalance wrote:
Let me tell you about mining skills...

THEY SIMPLY WON'T GO AWAY NO MATTER HOW HARD I SCRUB! EvilEvilSad

In other words, take anyone's advice here, just stop mining. They aren't joking when they say you'll look back on those skills months or years later and want to punch yourself in the nose. [/selfloathing]



i take it there is no way to untrain a skill. is it the more skills i have the slower skills train?
malaire
#36 - 2012-02-09 13:13:00 UTC  |  Edited by: malaire
Kessel Rock wrote:
OfBalance wrote:
Let me tell you about mining skills...

THEY SIMPLY WON'T GO AWAY NO MATTER HOW HARD I SCRUB! EvilEvilSad

In other words, take anyone's advice here, just stop mining. They aren't joking when they say you'll look back on those skills months or years later and want to punch yourself in the nose. [/selfloathing]



i take it there is no way to untrain a skill. is it the more skills i have the slower skills train?

No, training speed will be same no matter how much SP you have. It's just that you could've used that time you used to train minings skills to train something else.

Also clones do cost more when you have more SP total, but that is only downside for having a lot of SP.

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Duck Mouth
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#37 - 2012-02-10 19:39:01 UTC
Keras Authion wrote:
As the others have said above, with your SP and ships the options are few.

- Buy GTC and sell it as plex. The fastest way to make iskies.

- Go to Jita and scam. It's hit and miss and the consequences might come back at you later.

- Trading. If you (not your character, you) know how to trade this is probably your best choice of legit iskies. Otherwise it isn't the best time for learning and probably losing your isk.

Get a covetor instead. It's about 40 million fitted and rigged. You can get a basic one with as low as 25 million if you're really strapped for cash and it gets about 85% of the hulk's yield. You can then use that ship to earn a hulk.



^ this

+1
Dervinus
LowKey Ops
Shadow Cartel
#38 - 2012-02-11 15:12:51 UTC
The answer to your question is: Scam it. Thats the fastest way to make boatloads of isk.

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