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Dual account question. Maybe one for the devs

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Maxious
Dragon Knights of EvE
#1 - 2012-02-08 08:23:22 UTC
I've been a long term player of eve and I just want to make sure I know where I stand. I've just set up a second account for my girlfriend but at the moment she dose not have a computer that can play the game. So she uses mine. So the admins of the game will see two players from the same computer although not the same time. Currently
Just working on some
Skills for her. And she is in my corp. however when I get the replacement computer (hopefully one that the shaders will still work on(different complaint)) i will be quite obvious that I have two accounts running at the same time. And will be forming fleets with so we could do stuff togeather. However I hear that this may be a banable offence. Is this true? Should I just cancle this endover and not pay for her  account. Or have I been misinformed about having a dual account beig a bannable offence? I don't want to use an alt charater because only one can train skills at a time which makes them useless. And I want to fly at the same time
Sarasha Scoops
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-02-08 08:27:27 UTC
You don't have a girlfriend first of all. The dev's don't like to be blatantly lied to, and yes it is a bannable offense, the last person who did that lost about 200$ because he had paid 2 year long subscriptions before he cheated.
Dsan
Bedlam.
#3 - 2012-02-08 08:31:23 UTC
The way I understand what you are writing, it's just simple PC sharing, not account sharing.

Also, multiple clients running on the same PC at the same time is not an issue, theres people running up towards 10 or more accounts at the same time on the same PC out there.

It's the account sharing thats an issue for CCP, but I doubt it'll be seen as an offense when it's you and your girlfriend on the same PC and all.

Or follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/Dsan_dk

Pop Bear
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-02-08 08:36:07 UTC
What they don't know won't hurt them P
Gorongo Frostfyr
#5 - 2012-02-08 08:47:11 UTC
you pay them money, they wont ban you. botters also pay money and dont get banned.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#6 - 2012-02-08 08:49:01 UTC
Maxious wrote:
I've been a long term player of eve and I just want to make sure I know where I stand. I've just set up a second account for my girlfriend but at the moment she dose not have a computer that can play the game.


There's nothing wrong with running multiple accounts from one house. Where you may run into trouble is if you start sharing your account, which is against the EULA.
Maxious
Dragon Knights of EvE
#7 - 2012-02-08 08:53:38 UTC
So as long as the account has been paid for that should be ok. That's good because by the time I get her computer sorted out the trial should be up. Or I wonder if I get it sooner then I could pay for the account now and to start after the trial is done. I figured that a phone call with the admIns might be in order to prove my situation
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#8 - 2012-02-08 08:57:53 UTC
I have played multiple accounts for years, and my partner plays from the same network. There is nothing to get all worried about. We access our accounts from all over the shop - at home one day, then we're off in Newcastle visiting family for a week, or off to Brisbane for a fortnight, and we've even been logged in from Iceland, UK, France, Hungary and The Netherlands during our tour last year.

Just chill, enjoy the game, and look forward to playing EVE with your better half when that new computer finally arrives :)
Ajita al Tchar
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-02-08 09:11:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Ajita al Tchar
Maxious wrote:
So as long as the account has been paid for that should be ok. That's good because by the time I get her computer sorted out the trial should be up. Or I wonder if I get it sooner then I could pay for the account now and to start after the trial is done. I figured that a phone call with the admIns might be in order to prove my situation


What. Multiple accounts using the same PC, at the same time or not, by the same person or not, are very much allowed and are also very common. I'm currently running two clients doing different things on each, sometimes I run all three of my accounts, sometimes only two or one, and each account has a "main" character and two much more limited, low skill point alts for very specific tasks. In short, if you are not sharing any single account between more than one person, the only limitation on how many accounts you can run from the same PC is your own sanity. Some households have multiple EVE players and many of those have just one PC, and some households are just one person who likes to handle multiple pixel puppets. There's a dude out there who runs a whole crapload of accounts by himself, apparently legally:

http://sites.google.com/site/khromtor/

Also, you cannot run a trial account at the same time as a paid one, but that doesn't sound like something you're planning on since there are two people involved. Additionally, bots are not cool and if your question is using the guise of a girlfriend to conceal the fetal stage of a bot farm, I hope you realize what the consequences might be Twisted
Rion Deteisan
Forged Prophets
#10 - 2012-02-08 09:25:13 UTC
one person per account iirc. So she uses her account not yours. She can use your pc.

It might be a problem if she gets caught playing on one of your characters, but hard to prove you werent trolling and acting as a different end user and she was never there to begin with.

Just keep it simple.. if its her account, she plays on it. Keep her away from your assets..

...Shes probably already have a scheme to steal all your isk and dump you right after.

.

Serene Repose
#11 - 2012-02-08 09:30:39 UTC
I'd cancle the endover, but only after I rankle the bandyshoot.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Maxious
Dragon Knights of EvE
#12 - 2012-02-08 09:32:37 UTC
Hehe thanks for the info. Most informative. Yea been playing for some time but mostly just solo playing and only kinda on and off. Not been much involved just updating skills and moving things on. Never even seen more than 500 mil in my entire time I've been playing. But in the past half year I've be slowly getting back into the game. I'm still still trying to understand all the new developments and relearning old ones
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-02-08 10:40:52 UTC
Maxious wrote:
I just want to make sure I know where I stand.


Just do it man and stop asking for permission for something so innocuous. CCP doesn't care enough. And even if they did how the hell are they going to enforce it? As if the EULA requires one individual's accounts per computer. As if millions of people don't share computers. As if thousands of accounts in the game don't ever get shared.

Grow a backbone!

Don't ban me, bro!

Ifly Uwalk
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-02-08 10:48:14 UTC
Rion Deteisan wrote:
...Shes probably already have a scheme to steal all your isk and dump you right after.

This right there should be your biggest worry tbh.
RaTTuS
BIG
#15 - 2012-02-08 10:57:10 UTC
the rules are easy.
you buy an account it is yours , you buy another it is yours
your GF / partner / cat / buys an account it is theirs
you can play on your account
other people can play on other accounts
you both can play on the same machine with different accounts [hey you both can even play on the same machine with different accounts at the same time but it is not trivial that is for another post]
you cannot log into another's account to change skills , dock or even anything ... that is against the EULA and you can be warned / banned

now the real question is can they detect any of the above - that is debatable - but if you are petitioned then you may get to find out.

http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png http://i.imgur.com/kYLoKrM.png

Tiberius Sunstealer
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-02-08 11:00:20 UTC
Sarasha Scoops wrote:
the last person who did that lost about 200$ because he had paid 2 year long subscriptions before he cheated.

Did he take CCP to court? I know I would've.
Maxious
Dragon Knights of EvE
#17 - 2012-02-08 15:25:40 UTC
RaTTuS wrote:
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now the real question is can they detect any of the above - that is debatable - but if you are petitioned then you may get to find out.

The answer is if their is anyone there who is as good with computers as I am and know what their doing then the answer it yes. I know how to program a database that will hold the mac address and ip address of all loging and then sound an all arm if any parameters are met. And I'm not all that good. However the question should be how well managed is the company. And how well orginised is it?
DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
Disaster Strikes
#18 - 2012-02-08 17:09:40 UTC
I'm running 4 accounts on my PC right now...If I never post again, you know it's a bannable offence.

Damn nature, you scary!

supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group
#19 - 2012-02-08 18:09:44 UTC
Unless she steals your account, you can account share and ccp will never know or care (money = money = happy)

Everything else is either 8/10 trolling or lol wtf.
Minabunny
Bogus Brothers Corporation
#20 - 2012-02-08 19:57:18 UTC
If you're a long term player of eve you should know that the real time game mechanics force you into having multiple accounts. Take away multiple accounts and watch eve go down faster than the titanic. Running more than one account on a single PC is common not only here but in most games.