Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Will There ever be flying in space for eve. As in, with a joystick, Game skill Points + Actual stick and rudder skills equals better space combat.

I watch these little ccp movies and player movies, and they look so cool, But ive been playing for almost two years, and its more like submarines and battleships space, and not so much fighters in space. Maybe its because im always focused way way out so i can see 60km of space and im never focused on my ship.

I vote for joystick flying in space as the next step towards in enhancing eve online.

Way to be a party pooper
I know it would be an investment in time and resources, but i think the caliber of that investment would reflect in an increased level of game play quality.

Just play STO or X3 if you want to manually fly your ship.
EVE's flying mechanism makes it special.

No.

Hate flying with j-stick or rudder.. go play flight simulator.

So your idea is to replace EVE with different game entirely? Why not just play a different game?

To paraphrase the above thread:

Joystick flying was tested, a long long time ago, but I remember someone saying that the data from that many joysticks just couldn't complete the 'input-process-respond' cycle before the next batch of data arrived.

The net result was that someone with a faster, more efficient processor would have an inherent advantage over lower-end computers (because the more efficient computer would process joystick input data 'first' and respond faster), which CCP has always tried to avoid.

The problem with that is that you're running into the exact same server load issue. You can't have that many people trying to constantly pilot ships around in Eve. There's no reason not to have small fighters in DUST, there are many games where you can fly around in the map, but they can't interact with the space side of Eve in realtime, it just won't work.

Let me stop you right there... while EVE and DUST will be interacting with one another, they will still be VERY separate systems (I'm thinking because the coding/physics are fairly different).
The way I see it... EVE and DUST will probably be working together in a fashion similar to the Commander-Soldier relationship in Battlefield 2 and 3. Drop equipment here... sensors there... orbital strike here... etc.



EVE's base code does not support more than one player in any one ship at the same time. To change this would require a complete rebuild of "Destiny" (the temperamental physics engine of EVE that DEV's hate touching because "she is prone to murdering all the server hamsters and then committing suicide at changes she 'doesn't like'").




As I said above... limited interaction between DUST and EVE players is already in the works. EVE players will be able to supply and fund DUST players... and DUST players will be able to interact by being able to make deals with other EVE players (ex. "Here's 50 mil. Come kill our commander... he's a douche.") and, if they can take over a map, fire cannons into the sky to kill EVE players.

No, it doesn´t. It makes it everquest in space. The sandbox with a unique sci-fi setting makes eve special.

The solution is one they already are using in DUST.

All players of this aspect will be using the same hardware already, and seeing a connected game from a perspective not shared by the EVE players.

The DUST side, just like it shows planetary battles while we just see a PI interface, can show a LOT more detail, and can easily include flying drones in the regular game. It only needs to match damage amounts between the games, and who is taking the damage. EVE never needs to see the fancy flying itself, and many regular pilots would not even care.

Keep in mind, the ships we use in EVE vary in size, but all are larger than typical manual steered vessels. Even your smallest frigate would be comparable to naval frigates, and they just go up in size from there. These ships, given obvious technology and size / mass combinations, are steered by automated systems.

You want something like a one man fighter, or a small crew airplane at most, to get the feel of agility and speed.
We do have these, but we call them drones, and up to this point they are automated. For many, they are ignored and not even displayed to reduce client lag and clutter.

The EVE client will never actually need to display in great detail what they do, or how they behave. It is enough for us to know they are out there, and doing DPS for us. Most clients just show them orbiting the targets mindlessly, and shooting methodically.