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Callista Nueva
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-02-06 15:44:54 UTC
Ok so i am 4/5Days away from piloting my brand new shineh RattleSnake anyone have any ideas for a fitting for PvE/Mission running? :) im thinking of a solo fitting and a Group fitting as one of my corp members has a brilliant RattleSnake fitting which assisted my Hyperion up to the point i never needed to Armor rep tank during the mission which felt Godlike, any Fittings or ideas anyone can come up with would be much appreciated

It'd be nice if i got a message of fittings with a title of ''solo'' or ''Group'' (Only for PvE please i am not fond of PvP)
please much appreciated :D

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Aand i do love the thought of Using repair drones as bait O:
Cambarus
The Baros Syndicate
#2 - 2012-02-06 15:51:48 UTC
To be honest the rattlesnake is rather lackluster for any high sec PVE, LVL 4s are **** easy to tank, and the rattler puts out rather poor DPS, you'd be better off in a well fit domi.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-02-06 16:00:45 UTC
Cambarus wrote:
To be honest the rattlesnake is rather lackluster for any high sec PVE, LVL 4s are **** easy to tank, and the rattler puts out rather poor DPS, you'd be better off in a well fit domi.



actually personal experiences with the rattler tells me that the fact that uses missiles instead hybrids (yes ok they aren't bonused), makes it a wee bit better since you can focus damage types.

it's also very, very tanky, even with a T2 fit.


but yes, it's nearly on par with the domi, but at least it looks a bit cooler than the pregnant whale/inverted shoe/whatever abortion that is the domi.

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Cambarus
The Baros Syndicate
#4 - 2012-02-06 16:44:56 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
Cambarus wrote:
To be honest the rattlesnake is rather lackluster for any high sec PVE, LVL 4s are **** easy to tank, and the rattler puts out rather poor DPS, you'd be better off in a well fit domi.



actually personal experiences with the rattler tells me that the fact that uses missiles instead hybrids (yes ok they aren't bonused), makes it a wee bit better since you can focus damage types.

it's also very, very tanky, even with a T2 fit.


but yes, it's nearly on par with the domi, but at least it looks a bit cooler than the pregnant whale/inverted shoe/whatever abortion that is the domi.

The domi does about 100 DPS more with rails than the rattler with torps, while having far greater range, and the ability to volley smaller targets. If you happen to pull a mission where everything is close (like damsel in distress) The domi's guns will literally put out twice the DPS of the rattlers torps. I've used both, and it's really no contest.
Mavnas
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-02-06 19:05:34 UTC
I find the rattler's missiles are more for show than anything else. It could be that going from a near-perfect Nighthawk skill set to a meh set of skills with larger weapons biased me against it. Right now mine's gathering dust.
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#6 - 2012-02-06 19:55:47 UTC
As the above posters have indicated, the Rattler is meh for solo missions due to low DPS. However it is better at group work due to it's power as a passive tanking brick. If you want a slow (but workable) solo PvE fit, fit it like a cross between a Domi and a Drake, something like this (it's not perfect, but it give a bit of an idea of the way to fit it):

[Rattlesnake, solo PvE]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

Experimental 100MN Afterburner I
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II
Heat Dissipation Amplifier II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Large Shield Extender II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Trauma Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Trauma Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Trauma Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Core Defence Field Purger I
Large Core Defence Field Purger I
Large Core Defence Field Purger I

Garde II x5

It can also be fit burst tanked too, though that fit is somewhat akin to a Raven with worse missiles and a big drone bay.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-02-07 01:53:57 UTC
Cambarus wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
Cambarus wrote:
To be honest the rattlesnake is rather lackluster for any high sec PVE, LVL 4s are **** easy to tank, and the rattler puts out rather poor DPS, you'd be better off in a well fit domi.



actually personal experiences with the rattler tells me that the fact that uses missiles instead hybrids (yes ok they aren't bonused), makes it a wee bit better since you can focus damage types.

it's also very, very tanky, even with a T2 fit.


but yes, it's nearly on par with the domi, but at least it looks a bit cooler than the pregnant whale/inverted shoe/whatever abortion that is the domi.

The domi does about 100 DPS more with rails than the rattler with torps, while having far greater range, and the ability to volley smaller targets. If you happen to pull a mission where everything is close (like damsel in distress) The domi's guns will literally put out twice the DPS of the rattlers torps. I've used both, and it's really no contest.



point taken.


rattler still looks better tho.

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drdxie
#8 - 2012-02-07 03:31:53 UTC
I found the RS far easier to tank than the domi. It can be omni tanked so you don't need to keep changing hardners. My fit was maybe not as good as the one above, but it worked fine for me for solo. I preferred to run 2 x omni's as I used the sentry's as my main dps. I suppose to make it for group work you could put a cap and shield rr in the high. To be cap stable I did have a cc and cr implant.

[Rattlesnake, solo PvE]

Cruise Missile Launcher II_2
Cruise Missile Launcher II_2
Cruise Missile Launcher II_2
Cruise Missile Launcher II_2
Drone Link Augmentor II_2


Invulnerability Field II_2
Invulnerability Field II_2
Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II_2
Heat Dissipation Amplifier II_2
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II_2
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II_2
LiF Fueled Booster Rockets_1

Shield Power Relay II_2
Shield Power Relay II_2
Shield Power Relay II_2
Shield Power Relay II_2
Capacitor Power Relay II_2
Shield Power Relay II_2

Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I_2
Large Core Defence Field Purger I_2
Large Core Defence Field Purger I_2

Garde II, 5i
Bouncer II, 5i
Hobgoblin II, 5i
Ogre II, 5i

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Amon Tyr
#9 - 2012-02-07 03:54:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Amon Tyr
Planning to afk dualbox with this omni-tanked hottie very soon. (Meta4 Launchers, coz I ain't planning on training cruise spec any time soon.)


[Rattlesnake, Dual RR Fit]
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Damage Control II

Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Photon Scattering Field II
Drone Navigation Computer II
Drone Navigation Computer II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II

Drone Link Augmentor II
Large Shield Transporter II
Large Shield Transporter II
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Ogre II x5
Allyia Base
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-02-07 03:55:29 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
Cambarus wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
Cambarus wrote:
To be honest the rattlesnake is rather lackluster for any high sec PVE, LVL 4s are **** easy to tank, and the rattler puts out rather poor DPS, you'd be better off in a well fit domi.



actually personal experiences with the rattler tells me that the fact that uses missiles instead hybrids (yes ok they aren't bonused), makes it a wee bit better since you can focus damage types.

it's also very, very tanky, even with a T2 fit.


but yes, it's nearly on par with the domi, but at least it looks a bit cooler than the pregnant whale/inverted shoe/whatever abortion that is the domi.

The domi does about 100 DPS more with rails than the rattler with torps, while having far greater range, and the ability to volley smaller targets. If you happen to pull a mission where everything is close (like damsel in distress) The domi's guns will literally put out twice the DPS of the rattlers torps. I've used both, and it's really no contest.



point taken.


rattler still looks better tho.


Disagree. It looks like a power-ranger infiltrated the gurista engineers inner circle.
Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#11 - 2012-02-07 08:50:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Rel'k Bloodlor
Ok so heres what you do.
Don't fly a Rattle Snake....fly a Gila.

Here's why
way cheaper (like 85-90%)
tanks as well/better (with an afterburner)
way less of a gank target (and can escape from ganks)
funner to fly (your not just a lump if you sit still you will die)
barely loses any DPS (and assault launchers are your friend for killing frigs quick)
MOA HULL!!!!!!
has applications in exploration/low sec mission running
did you know it has the same amount of drones and drone bay?

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Mavnas
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-02-07 09:39:51 UTC
One thing I never got about AFk flying one is how are you supposed to prevent your sentries from getting wrecked by the mission rats?
Sabren Bel
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-02-07 11:06:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Sabren Bel
While the Rattlesnake may not sport the best dps out of the battleship classes, it does have the best passive tank. Plus it's highly versatile.

Mine carries 20 drones. 5 lights. 5 heavies. 10 sentries. I can take on rats at extreme distances. I can take on rats that are right in my face. Fast frigates? No problem. The 5 lights with the Rattlesnake's ship bonus will make short work of them.

Not to mention, you can choose damage types on the fly.

It's not a fast ship, but it's big and tough. It can fight and defend itself with zero cap. It can solo l5s and it's light on ammo costs.

It's a mission ship you never have to think about. Fit it once in a passive configuration with balanced resists and you're done. That fit will work for every l4 out there.

And because it's not a flashy, flavor-of-the-month ship, it's a far cheaper and smarter buy than those other battleships that pad the killboards of high-sec pirates.
A'Brantox Foson
A'Brantox Foson Corporation
#14 - 2012-02-07 11:14:20 UTC
Earthmother
Skybert Organization
Reeloaded.
#15 - 2012-02-07 11:30:43 UTC
Tried the rattler with torps? that should help you dmg issue for missions, since it is such a tanky ship. u can even fit a TP if u work/pay for it.

RAttler have same range bonus as the Golem. and with 4 launchers, stick with faction torps.

cruises are for ravens.
Amon Tyr
#16 - 2012-02-07 21:47:18 UTC
Mavnas wrote:
One thing I never got about AFk flying one is how are you supposed to prevent your sentries from getting wrecked by the mission rats?

Simple, you don't use sentries.
Kasutra
No Vacancies
No Vacancies.
#17 - 2012-02-08 02:13:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Kasutra
With sentries and torps, you can squeeze aaaalmost 1000 paper dps out of this thing with just a T2 fit. Devote as many midslots as you want to omnis and TPs to turn that paper dps into something real, it's barely possible to undertank this ship anyway.

To me, it looks like a shield sentry dominix, with slightly less range and paper damage, but with more EHP and damage selection.
Mavnas
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-02-08 21:51:38 UTC
Seems like using a TP and Torps means you have to work super-hard micromanaging stuff, which defeats most of the point of flying the ship in the first place. Unless you're using it to talk L5s. Not to mention that's another drone mod you're giving up.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#19 - 2012-02-08 22:08:17 UTC
this fit in the golem thread in missions and complexes.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/58826-Rattlesnake-Drone-L4-champ.html

I think its brilliant, although with the cost of the purgers, might switch to t2 damage rig and t1 purger rigs. Even as expensive as this setup is, its still cheaper than fitting a deadspace active tank on the rattler.

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Stetson Eagle
Paird Technology
#20 - 2012-02-08 23:31:16 UTC
Someone must have pointed this out already, but Rattlesnake does L4's best in an active setup. Fit 2 drone damage rigs, 2 omni track links, a TP or 2, some ballistic controls and active tank it.