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Paragon Renegade
Sebiestor Tribe
#1 - 2012-02-07 22:06:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Paragon Renegade
Now I'm a coward, and being a coward I hate to fight, and would resent being station camped to no end like any sane person. I also loathe opening my "assets" page and seeing a billion different stations with stuff in them, with about 100 jumps to get everything. So to go against this I liquidate everything I own barring one Hulk /Covert Ops and the fittings, and travel around buying and selling what I need at the moment to avoid being "pinned down" by my personal assets. This leads me to have "Adventures" so to speak; daring POS Re-arming raids for a friend, massive amounts of travel to see the sights (Like C6 Worm Holes and all but one of the game's shattered planets) and I have such a wonderful time with absolutely no obligation to do anything or guard any posessions.

Now I've been thinking; this nomadic way of living may be more satisfying and more emotionally fulfilling, but I've come to this realization that it is "bad for business"; I don't have standings above or below 0 to any faction worth mentioning (Bad for refining my aquired Mercoxit and ABC), I waste ISK on buying ships only when I need them, then selling them immediately when I'm done. Above all, this nomadic way has prevented me from getting chummy with all but five people in the whole game, making me miss out on the more social aspects.

In your opinion, would it be better? Settle down, join a corp and do things with people? Or continue on my merry way doing what I do best? I know this is a sandbox game, and there is no set way to play, but I wish to have some feedback from the community

The pie is a tautology
J Kunjeh
#2 - 2012-02-07 22:12:01 UTC
Paragon Renegade wrote:


...continue on my merry way doing what I do best?


This ^

"The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5) 
Beckie DeLey
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-02-07 22:13:21 UTC
Try it and see if you like it. It's the only way. I think you are completely right about the nomad lifestyle being a bad business decision. But if it's more fun for you, that should be more important than ISK/hour. If you go for the nomad's lifestyle, you should look into training for an Orca, though. These things are sweet as a mobile base, i hear.

Kind of a middleground (maybe even best of both worlds?) would be joining a wormhole corp and live out of there, taking advantage of the constant change of neighbour systems.

My siren's name is Brick and she is the prettiest.
Ai Shun
#4 - 2012-02-07 22:19:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Ai Shun
Paragon Renegade wrote:
In your opinion, would it be better? Settle down, join a corp and do things with people? Or continue on my merry way doing what I do best? I know this is a sandbox game, and there is no set way to play, but I wish to have some feedback from the community


Best thing to do would be what you enjoy at the time.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-02-07 22:19:48 UTC
Maybe you find other people who enjoy being nomads, too. A whole corp moving around like a swarm of locusts, plundering the systems for everything and then move on to the next....why not?

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Paragon Renegade
Sebiestor Tribe
#6 - 2012-02-07 22:22:17 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Maybe you find other people who enjoy being nomads, too. A whole corp moving around like a swarm of locusts, plundering the systems for everything and then move on to the next....why not?


Understand what I mean when I say that's a difficult corp type to find. WH corps I find are just Null corps too small to exist in normal space, and they don't really roam much from what I've seen. I'll look at them again, and see what's up.

The pie is a tautology
Orion Guardian
#7 - 2012-02-07 22:28:32 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Maybe you find other people who enjoy being nomads, too. A whole corp moving around like a swarm of locusts, plundering the systems for everything and then move on to the next....why not?


There might be a problem though....if one of you isn't only for a wekk or so and you moved on you left him behind the poor man ;)
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-02-07 22:29:45 UTC
Paragon Renegade wrote:
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Maybe you find other people who enjoy being nomads, too. A whole corp moving around like a swarm of locusts, plundering the systems for everything and then move on to the next....why not?


Understand what I mean when I say that's a difficult corp type to find. WH corps I find are just Null corps too small to exist in normal space, and they don't really roam much from what I've seen. I'll look at them again, and see what's up.


I have been serious. I just had the idea about one week ago. A huge high sec corp, moving around, stirring up trouble, completely crushing the economy and markets where they show up, wardeccing every corp in the sector and then moving on. I don't know if someone has done that yet, but it sounds like a fun idea. But I fear I am not ruthless enough to pull that through- but I am working on it.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#9 - 2012-02-07 23:10:54 UTC
A) If your having fun why bother changing it other than to just simply see what your missing or to do it for doings sake. Its neither right nor wrong.

Yes you ARE losing isk on buying and selling immediately.

What you could do is set up a few things in a central region to each faction and keep stuff there and NOT worry about moving it. When I started Eve we colonized a constellation so to speak and staged out of a single high sec station. Since Ive branched out, moving wherever theres lucrative opportunities or just something different to do so I didnt get bored.

So I set up FOBs wherever Id stay for a few months at a time in a centralized area. After a while sure I had stuff everywhere, high, low, null.... but it meant that I could always just pick up and move to another area quite quickly and not worry about not having ships for combat, PvE or whatever else close at hand.... at least the essentials. So I was never but a few jumps away from whatever I needed.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-02-07 23:27:32 UTC
You're awesome ! :D

There's no need to join a corp, as long as you know people you can do stuff with. :)

I'm pretty much always in my one-man-corp, but currently i'm having a blast with alliance mates i know. :D
There's no need to join their corps or alliance, because the differences are only imaginary anyway ! :D

So ... stay true to yourself and what you do ... but have fun broadening your perspectives! :)
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#11 - 2012-02-08 00:24:28 UTC
The first step is to decide not to give a rat's ass what anybody else thinks.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#12 - 2012-02-08 00:26:58 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
The first step is to decide not to give a rat's ass what anybody else thinks.



The dichtomy of EVE.

The only way to stay and stay sane is to not give a rats ass.

Not giving a rats ass, you feel no obligation to stay.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#13 - 2012-02-08 00:46:06 UTC
My opinion, if your having fun why change?


Sure you can try settling down, you might like it. But don't do something you don't like for no good reason.
Paragon Renegade
Sebiestor Tribe
#14 - 2012-02-08 00:53:49 UTC
I do not, indeed, give a rat's ass :)

The pie is a tautology
Ajita al Tchar
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-02-08 00:58:14 UTC
Do what feels most fun at the time, and don't be afraid of changing your mind on what it is that seems fun Big smile Try your idea out for a time, see if you end up missing some aspect or other, go do that, go back to being a nomad, etc. The beauty of this game, you're not really locked into a path unless you choose to be.

What you described is kind of what I do, and I hate having stuff scattered around just as much, uck! I do have a small group of alts in one location doing some industry things because I like to have that as a side project to sometimes shift focus to entirely (IMO industry is a fun challenge, and it's good money after a while). I have a location where I keep most of my crap and I like being able to take off and do whatever wherever might seem interesting, coming back to the "base" sometimes for supplies. I've had this idea of getting some people together with a mobile base of operations like a carrier or two and blops for quiet transport of people themselves, and jumping around various null systems that aren't cynojammed, stirring up "excitement" for local residents, farming said residents and NPC's. However, more people = more problems and I know I'll probably get bored of this soon enough Blink I don't want to organize anything so I bum around the universe on my own, and having lots of fun.

My favorite place to live has become w-space, I like the stealthy aspect and it's always possible to find interesting things to do there and in all the k-space that can be accessed through wormholes. It's like a magic gateway to the rest of space. I think some people mind find my way of playing lonely, but I don't really crave social interaction so meh. You mingt find a number of like-minded people in wh corps, there are all kinds and types of wh corps out there, not just "I wish I were in null but this'll do for now" type of people.
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#16 - 2012-02-08 01:11:16 UTC  |  Edited by: MadMuppet
I do the nomad thing a lot.

Learn to fly an Orca, it can make moving to a new area SO much easier. In an Orca you can fit a collection of fitting parts and ammo in the 40,000m3 corp hangar and the 400,000m3 maintenance bay allows you to carry ready to go ships. There is also a potential of around 90,000m3 in the regular cargo bay which for a while I carried an unassembled battleship (50,000m3) which I would assemble at the next level 4 agent to grind standings (I would have to replace the rigs, annoying but not terrible).

In one series of trips I used the Orca to pack a Noctis and a T3 ship rigged out as well as a couple smaller ships for errands. I would enter a constellation and run around it doing exploration. If I found stuff I would deal with it, bring in the Noctis to salvage everything, pack it all up and move on to the next area. I would sometimes find Grav sites and would run through the belts and find a couple miners that were interested and collected a few nice finders fees.

Also, worst case of learning the Orca, you have a nice unscannable cargo ship.

In low sec though I generally would enter an area with nothing more than a rookie ship and build up a fleet in the system/constellation . When I was tired, or got chased out, I would just move on. Everything on those trips was 'expendable' and 'what I could afford to lose'. I've met a lot of nice people in low sec actually, it isn't the total sewer that some claim it to be. Being a nomad doesn't mean you can't say hi in local. Hell, I've had some great conversations with people trying to kill me, it was almost like a bad gunfight scene from an 80's action movie.

One thing I can honestly say from flying in the nomad life, if I lost all my isk, ships, and 'stuff' I would have no problem building up again for another run at the game. Me, a Reaper, and a single trit ready to take on the galaxy again! Eve is a sandbox, what you build in it and enjoy is totally up to you.

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"If you are part of the problem, you will be nerfed." -MadMuppet
Paragon Renegade
Sebiestor Tribe
#17 - 2012-02-08 01:17:37 UTC
^I like this, got spirit to it

The pie is a tautology
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-02-08 01:53:16 UTC
Try meeting other nomads on your journeys. Strike up convos in local and see if you find anyone with similar interest or join up with local fleets/corps if only for one time. Maybe live life as a mercenary and make some cash fighting war after war.

Honestly there are a lot of possibilities for a nomadic lifestyle. Trere are many careers that benefit a nomadic lifestyle. For example being a merchant nomad would have great benefits, moving from new place to new place selling and buying goods.

Or you could join a pirate gang. Warp into a system, slaughter everyone and take their stuff and move on before their back-up arrives. By never attacking the same spot twice (at least with frequency) people will never know when and where you will strike next.

Basically if you take nothing else from this post, try to meet people everywhere you wind up. The next time you pass through that system or bump into an old friend you could always fly with them.

Probably the greatest benefit I can think of for being a nomad in EVE is that each experience will be different.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!
Doc Severide
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-02-08 02:11:31 UTC
This ^^^^...

I love being a Nomad, just drifting through place to place. Lots of fun to be had....
Freylock
Royale Strategic Imperative
#20 - 2012-02-08 02:23:43 UTC
Start a nomad corp?
Or worst case scenario, try joining a normal corp, just for kicks. Maybe even make an corp alt.
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