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CCP! Please clarify the future plans for WiS!

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Gevlin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2821 - 2012-02-06 10:12:10 UTC
nice to see there is still work being done on WIS
i do agree with the current approach.. once some more issue are dealt with FIS I think a second or third group needs to be added.

Working out the major bugs of mechanics and technical . then ramp up with content builders when those issues are dealt with

Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships
Oberine Noriepa
#2822 - 2012-02-06 14:26:13 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
Another question for team Avatar.

Given that 60 devs are currently working on the World of Darkness MMO, can we expect any of the improvements that they make to the character rendering technology to make it's way into Incarna (presuming that they are doing this kind of work of course).

Also. Dev blog? Please?

Given the recent updates that Crucible brought, I think it's very likely that EVE's ambulation technology will receive the same updates as World of Darkness.

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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#2823 - 2012-02-06 14:33:05 UTC
Oberine Noriepa wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Another question for team Avatar.

Given that 60 devs are currently working on the World of Darkness MMO, can we expect any of the improvements that they make to the character rendering technology to make it's way into Incarna (presuming that they are doing this kind of work of course).

Also. Dev blog? Please?

Given the recent updates that Crucible brought, I think it's very likely that EVE's ambulation technology will receive the same updates as World of Darkness.

WOD devs are focused on game mechanics and game play as the new CQ devs fix bugs and expand the fuctionality. All the things we wish CQ could be come will start to appear.

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#2824 - 2012-02-06 14:35:35 UTC
Salpun wrote:
Oberine Noriepa wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Another question for team Avatar.

Given that 60 devs are currently working on the World of Darkness MMO, can we expect any of the improvements that they make to the character rendering technology to make it's way into Incarna (presuming that they are doing this kind of work of course).

Also. Dev blog? Please?

Given the recent updates that Crucible brought, I think it's very likely that EVE's ambulation technology will receive the same updates as World of Darkness.

WOD devs are focused on game mechanics and game play as the new CQ devs fix bugs and expand the fuctionality. All the things we wish CQ could be come will start to appear.


And your source is...? Wishfulthinkingdotcom? Roll
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#2825 - 2012-02-06 15:30:25 UTC
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:
[quote=DeMichael Crimson][quote=xxxTRUSTxxx]


hold on a ******* second, i actualy play the game, i've attended fanfest, i've read many many dev blogs, and forgive me, but the fact remains, it is a spaceship game,, in the future as you say yes it may be much much more, but right now, it is NOT !

CCP have stated many things over the years which usualy follows with a soon.TM
i've nothing against anyone wanting to play with their dolly, knock yourselves out, but the fact is this, the core of the game cannot be ignored as it was during the WiS development, if WiS is going to effect the core element of the game then to HELL with WiS !

you are so wrong, i am not anti WiS, i am anti ignore the core element of the game, i looked forward to WiS just as much as others did and still do for what might be in teh future, but what we got was a farce which the game has still not fully recovered from.

on a closing note, maybe it is you who needs to read up or Google the stats on players who have left because of what WiS did to EVE last year. WiS brought ZERO players into game, it drove them away, you yourself are here playing spaceships onlne, i mean come on,, are you really going to tell me you joined EVE for WiS ?

show me the stats of players who joined EVE for WiS Vs players who joined for FiS. all this from an alt,, post from your main and give backbone to your argument.



the funny thing is you are saying something almost everybody in this thread wants.

Development of WIS as long other aspects of EVE ,FIS ,FW etc are getting the resources it needs

Nobody in this thread who like to see some more WIS ,wants it at the expense of FIS

R.S.I2014
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#2826 - 2012-02-06 15:33:04 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Salpun wrote:
Oberine Noriepa wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Another question for team Avatar.

Given that 60 devs are currently working on the World of Darkness MMO, can we expect any of the improvements that they make to the character rendering technology to make it's way into Incarna (presuming that they are doing this kind of work of course).

Also. Dev blog? Please?

Given the recent updates that Crucible brought, I think it's very likely that EVE's ambulation technology will receive the same updates as World of Darkness.

WOD devs are focused on game mechanics and game play as the new CQ devs fix bugs and expand the fuctionality. All the things we wish CQ could be come will start to appear.


And your source is...? Wishfulthinkingdotcom? Roll




The only source we need is team Avatar ,keep waiting on the promised blog
Although CCP and promises ???? just hoping that they keep word this time

R.S.I2014
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
#2827 - 2012-02-06 17:56:20 UTC  |  Edited by: xxxTRUSTxxx
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:
[quote=DeMichael Crimson][quote=xxxTRUSTxxx]


hold on a ******* second, i actualy play the game, i've attended fanfest, i've read many many dev blogs, and forgive me, but the fact remains, it is a spaceship game,, in the future as you say yes it may be much much more, but right now, it is NOT !

CCP have stated many things over the years which usualy follows with a soon.TM
i've nothing against anyone wanting to play with their dolly, knock yourselves out, but the fact is this, the core of the game cannot be ignored as it was during the WiS development, if WiS is going to effect the core element of the game then to HELL with WiS !

you are so wrong, i am not anti WiS, i am anti ignore the core element of the game, i looked forward to WiS just as much as others did and still do for what might be in teh future, but what we got was a farce which the game has still not fully recovered from.

on a closing note, maybe it is you who needs to read up or Google the stats on players who have left because of what WiS did to EVE last year. WiS brought ZERO players into game, it drove them away, you yourself are here playing spaceships onlne, i mean come on,, are you really going to tell me you joined EVE for WiS ?

show me the stats of players who joined EVE for WiS Vs players who joined for FiS. all this from an alt,, post from your main and give backbone to your argument.



the funny thing is you are saying something almost everybody in this thread wants.

Development of WIS as long other aspects of EVE ,FIS ,FW etc are getting the resources it needs

Nobody in this thread who like to see some more WIS ,wants it at the expense of FIS



i know,, but some haven't read what i've said already in this thread. i'm all up for upgrades to the game in any way or kind, as long as it doesn't effect what we have already. oh btw, although i do like the idea of WiS, i hate the idea of a fashion parade in eve, dressing dolly up to look good, NOT FOR ME thanks Lol
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
#2828 - 2012-02-06 18:18:10 UTC
Aquila Draco wrote:
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Meanwhile, i just noticed one funny fact.

In these "spaceship game" forums, the two longer threads are about human-like avatars.


you are right, it is a SPACESHIP GAME and not a dress up ya dolly and show it off game.

actualy it's not a funny fact at all, please show us on your dolly where the bad thread touched you Roll lol



Wrong, wrong and WRONG.

This is not just a 'Spaceship Game'. That term implies that Eve Online is a Spaceship flying simulator. Your use of the term 'Dolly' shows you have a closed very limited imagination and know very little about what direction this game is going.

CCP has stated from the beginning that Eve Online is a massive multiplayer online role playing game ...It is a player-driven, persistent-world MMORPG set in a futuristic science fiction space environment.

CCP has stated more than once that their vision for Eve Online is to make it a Science Fiction Virtual Reality. That includes all aspects from FiS to WiS.

So you and all the other anti WiS naysayers need to accept the fact that WiS is here to stay. It will be further developed over time with more game play options.

Obviously you've made statements without doing any research regarding this issue. Next time please use goggle to find some facts to back up your statements.



hold on a ******* second, i actualy play the game, i've attended fanfest, i've read many many dev blogs, and forgive me, but the fact remains, it is a spaceship game,, in the future as you say yes it may be much much more, but right now, it is NOT !

CCP have stated many things over the years which usualy follows with a soon.TM
i've nothing against anyone wanting to play with their dolly, knock yourselves out, but the fact is this, the core of the game cannot be ignored as it was during the WiS development, if WiS is going to effect the core element of the game then to HELL with WiS !

you are so wrong, i am not anti WiS, i am anti ignore the core element of the game, i looked forward to WiS just as much as others did and still do for what might be in teh future, but what we got was a farce which the game has still not fully recovered from.

on a closing note, maybe it is you who needs to read up or Google the stats on players who have left because of what WiS did to EVE last year. WiS brought ZERO players into game, it drove them away, you yourself are here playing spaceships onlne, i mean come on,, are you really going to tell me you joined EVE for WiS ?

show me the stats of players who joined EVE for WiS Vs players who joined for FiS. all this from an alt,, post from your main and give backbone to your argument.


This is the proof that some ppl can read the same sentence all day long but are not intelligent enough to understand what happen in it.
If i was on your place i would not write any more.

Tell me what ppl left the game because the WiS???
What WiS did to EVE???

How i love ppl that come to anti apple protest and bring anti orange transparent and only them shout anti orange paroles;
and then tells ppl that there was anti orange protest.

All ***** that happen to EVE last year was about "golden ammo" and "greed is good".

Learn to read with understanding.



you can't ignore that fact that WiS was a part of the mess, i'm sorry, but my reading is fine, WiS( trapped in ya CQ ) and NEX ( dress ya dolly ) have a read >>> INCARNA
Flamespar
WarRavens
#2829 - 2012-02-07 23:33:11 UTC
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:
you can't ignore that fact that WiS was a part of the mess, i'm sorry, but my reading is fine, WiS( trapped in ya CQ ) and NEX ( dress ya dolly ) have a read >>> INCARNA


The problem with the original argument that you presented was that you were trying to attibute blame sorely to WiS, which is incorrect.

Also what people tend to forget is that the first iteration of Captains quarters was designed primarily to help new players get into EVE (hence the corp finder, agent finder, new tutorials and vids)
Ai Shun
#2830 - 2012-02-08 00:13:02 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Meanwhile, i just noticed one funny fact.

In these "spaceship game" forums, the two longer threads are about human-like avatars.


Because of daily bumps.


Yay, those darned people who just won't stop posting about what interests them... can't we make them stop?


Pity they are the same group of people bumping the same thread daily. Ah well, a small audience is still an audience. Let's hope Team Avatar comes back with some goodies soon.
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#2831 - 2012-02-08 00:25:28 UTC
This was the first new forum threadnaught. (and my first! Big smile )

There were some anti-WIS troll types that certainly made regular posts but once you filter all that out there were some decent conversations with a number of folks for and against ambulation, then some good dev participation in the end (finally!) that made this thread worthy of attention.

To everyone that helped keep this topic alive, thanks!

And to Team Avatar, you have fans as you can plainly see!

We really need that dev blog promised soon to keep us hoping and to get you some credibility!

I believe this thread proved there are a lot of paying subscribers that want ambulation and even consider it key to the future of Eve. I'm even trying to get someone in the CSM that will keep CCP thinking and working on the next generation of Eve exeriences we can only have once we get out that door!

Issler Dainze
Not a "Space Barbie" but a sneaky smuggler type that needs to make some seedy connections in the dark corners of the stations to do some crime and slip about!
Freylock
Royale Strategic Imperative
#2832 - 2012-02-08 02:09:09 UTC
I have no idea what these acronyms stand for.
Flamespar
WarRavens
#2833 - 2012-02-08 04:07:08 UTC
Freylock wrote:
I have no idea what these acronyms stand for.


Well to answer your question. FiS (which the rabid trolls demand CCP focus exclusively on) stands for 'fascism in space', where the views of a vocal minority dictate everyone’s experience down a narrow view.

Whereas WiS, (which handsome, smart, forward thinking players like myself are asking for) stands for 'wonder in space' where players are given new ways of experiencing and participating in the EVE universe.

Hope this helps
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#2834 - 2012-02-08 08:18:07 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Flamespar wrote:
Freylock wrote:
I have no idea what these acronyms stand for.


Well to answer your question. FiS (which the rabid trolls demand CCP focus exclusively on) stands for 'fascism in space', where the views of a vocal minority dictate everyone’s experience down a narrow view.

Whereas WiS, (which handsome, smart, forward thinking players like myself are asking for) stands for 'wonder in space' where players are given new ways of experiencing and participating in the EVE universe.

Hope this helps

lol, nice counter troll.




FiS = Flying in Spaceships
WiS = Walking in Stations
PvP = Player verses Player
PvE = Player verses Environment
EvE = Everyone verses Everyone

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oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#2835 - 2012-02-08 17:07:37 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
Freylock wrote:
I have no idea what these acronyms stand for.


Well to answer your question. FiS (which the rabid trolls demand CCP focus exclusively on) stands for 'fascism in space', where the views of a vocal minority dictate everyone’s experience down a narrow view.

Whereas WiS, (which handsome, smart, forward thinking players like myself are asking for) stands for 'wonder in space' where players are given new ways of experiencing and participating in the EVE universe.

Hope this helps




I just said ,hey i want WIS ,so now i am a handsome,smart and forward thinking guy.
Can,t stop my wifes laughter anymore ,she is really rolling on the floor now.


Seriously , i wonder if one of the Team Avatar devs ,still follows this thread and could give us a insight on how they are doing and when we can expect that promised blog

R.S.I2014
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#2836 - 2012-02-08 17:26:30 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Freylock wrote:
I have no idea what these acronyms stand for.


Well to answer your question. FiS (which the rabid trolls demand CCP focus exclusively on) stands for 'fascism in space', where the views of a vocal minority dictate everyone’s experience down a narrow view.

Whereas WiS, (which handsome, smart, forward thinking players like myself are asking for) stands for 'wonder in space' where players are given new ways of experiencing and participating in the EVE universe.

Hope this helps

lol, nice counter troll.




FiS = Flying in Spaceships
WiS = Walking in Stations
PvP = Player verses Player
PvE = Player verses Environment
EvE = Everyone verses Everyone



You forgot the latest one

SiF = Shooting in Face!

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Fuee
Doomheim
#2837 - 2012-02-08 17:36:38 UTC
Could we have the people who worked at CCP 6 years ago back? Who understood WiS and actually cared about EVE?
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#2838 - 2012-02-09 00:38:40 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Freylock wrote:
I have no idea what these acronyms stand for.


Well to answer your question. FiS (which the rabid trolls demand CCP focus exclusively on) stands for 'fascism in space', where the views of a vocal minority dictate everyone’s experience down a narrow view.

Whereas WiS, (which handsome, smart, forward thinking players like myself are asking for) stands for 'wonder in space' where players are given new ways of experiencing and participating in the EVE universe.

Hope this helps

lol, nice counter troll.




FiS = Flying in Spaceships
WiS = Walking in Stations
PvP = Player verses Player
PvE = Player verses Environment
EvE = Everyone verses Everyone



You forgot the latest one

SiF = Shooting in Face!


And don't forget one that was often found in this thread!!

TiF = Trolling in Forums

Issler
Jhagiti Tyran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2839 - 2012-02-09 00:50:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Jhagiti Tyran
Another great victory over the dress up the dolly fetishists for the people who love EVE is the fact that the new player introduction website fails to mention WiS, Incarna or NEX store at all.

Yet the designers thought "erm you have a hanger to put stuff in" needed mentioning while not promoting, advertising or listing space Barbie as a feature at all.
Flamespar
WarRavens
#2840 - 2012-02-09 01:07:34 UTC
Jhagiti Tyran wrote:
Another great victory over the dress up the dolly fetishists for the people who love EVE is the fact that the new player introduction website fails to mention WiS, Incarna or NEX store at all.


You mean except for all of the pictures of Avatars and the pics and footage of players walking in the captains quarters and the new player vid that talks about creating your avatar and accessing the features of CQ.

Did you actually have your computer on when you went to the website?

Just when you thought trolls couldn't get any dumber......