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Eve website front page - here to stay?

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#41 - 2012-02-07 17:29:33 UTC
Luba Cibre wrote:
I've literally looked 5 minutes for the account management button. Not so cool.



same thing here i was like where the F! is the formus... took me 5 min to figure out its under the right hand side of the top corner all hidden away... could you move it to a main button next to all the NPE stuff pretty please...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

Lexmana
#42 - 2012-02-07 17:46:17 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
Luba Cibre wrote:
I've literally looked 5 minutes for the account management button. Not so cool.



same thing here i was like where the F! is the formus... took me 5 min to figure out its under the right hand side of the top corner all hidden away... could you move it to a main button next to all the NPE stuff pretty please...


If they had put it there , you probably would have stared in the upper corner for 5 min instead demanding they would make a special place with a different color so it would stand out. Just saying ...
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2012-02-07 17:48:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Kidd
Chiming in here.....

I have to say that the forums, since I've been playing, have gone from good, to less good and now to worse.

The font looks like someone was scrapping the bottom of the barrel at some of the worst freeware font sites. CCP, if someone in your ranks "created" that font you should either get their eyes examined or re-assess their creativity. I have zero creative ability in graphics design and I could make something better than that. Seriously! It's horrible.

Also, the divergence of websites, while not a bad idea, could use better execution. If you want us to have different sites, great, do it! But, take a well proofed idea from most companies. Dot Com for potential customers. Dot Net for existing customers. God knows that "eve website" link looks like a 'feature' where the least used links are placed on most websites such as disclaimers and where companies like to bury actual contact information. It doesn't look like it's the place to put the most used links. Meh, what do I know of web design, nothing. But, I do know, as a user, that your web team is making life more difficult for its users.

Don't ban me, bro!

Jita Bloodtear
Bloodtear Labs
#44 - 2012-02-07 17:48:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Jita Bloodtear
The front page is obviously not designed for people who play eve already. It's designed for new players. That's fine, but at least one of the buttons on that page should take actual players to content that we use.
J Kunjeh
#45 - 2012-02-07 18:12:29 UTC  |  Edited by: J Kunjeh
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
Before:
1. load eveonline.com
2. load devblog page

Now:
1. load eveonline.com
2. load community.eveonline.com
3. load devblog page


Hey there douchebag, try this:

1. Go to http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp
2. Bookmark
3. ???
4. Profit?

Some people are so damn lazy it's incredible...can't help themselves. Oh, and PS, your name sucks balls...was that your D&D name back in the 70's?

That said, great new website! Can't wait to see it evolve and improve.

"The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5) 

Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2012-02-07 18:16:34 UTC
J Kunjeh wrote:
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
Before:
1. load eveonline.com
2. load devblog page

Now:
1. load eveonline.com
2. load community.eveonline.com
3. load devblog page


Hey there douchebag, try this:

1. Go to http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp
2. Bookmark
3. ???
4. Profit?

Some people are so damn lazy it's incredible...can't help themselves. Oh, and PS, your name sucks balls...was that your D&D name back in the 70's?

That said, great new website! Can't wait to see it evolve and improve.


CCP Web Team alt detected....

Don't ban me, bro!

MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#47 - 2012-02-07 18:17:40 UTC
Lexmana wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
Luba Cibre wrote:
I've literally looked 5 minutes for the account management button. Not so cool.



same thing here i was like where the F! is the formus... took me 5 min to figure out its under the right hand side of the top corner all hidden away... could you move it to a main button next to all the NPE stuff pretty please...


If they had put it there , you probably would have stared in the upper corner for 5 min instead demanding they would make a special place with a different color so it would stand out. Just saying ...



LMAO soo true... guess its just i knew where sh*t was and now i have to refind everything...

I guess this is the bonus for us Vets eh? to make the game interesting again...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2012-02-07 18:18:51 UTC
J Kunjeh wrote:
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
Before:
1. load eveonline.com
2. load devblog page

Now:
1. load eveonline.com
2. load community.eveonline.com
3. load devblog page


Hey there douchebag, try this:

1. Go to http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp
2. Bookmark
3. ???
4. Profit?

Some people are so damn lazy it's incredible...can't help themselves. Oh, and PS, your name sucks balls...was that your D&D name back in the 70's?

That said, great new website! Can't wait to see it evolve and improve.

Now go back to read the bottom part of my post which you just clipped from quote. Then you realize that it is too late to fix the "creative" brain fart you just poasted.

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest

Gordon Fell
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-02-07 18:25:56 UTC
Sigh, if this is what they come up with usability-wise, the client UI is pretty much doomed. Or actually it's users are.
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2012-02-07 18:29:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Grey Stormshadow
Zag'mar Jurkar wrote:
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
Before:
1. load eveonline.com
2. load devblog page

Now:
1. load eveonline.com
2. load community.eveonline.com
3. load devblog page

It is not about hating the change. It is about pushing bling over usability. This is just as bad design as the new neocom, where simple and working functionality and features were removed to make it look more pretty and have more "cool" menus.

Neither is working well any more.

...and as I know that some will soonTM say "bookmark to community.eveonline.com and live with it" I have to ask question - should I bookmark to support. account management and forums as well? Like to have eve-online compatible browser configuration you would need 8 bookmarks in links bar.... right?

Front page of websites should tie the site together, not provide only some graphical presentation for possible new customer with few $ to spare. You could have some nice attractive advertisement for them to click which would forward them to page like that.


Yes, you should have multiple bookmarks if you want quick access to things.

Just right click at the top, add a folder named EVE and put EVE Bookmarks in there, and enjoy !


Aye... sounds like a good idea. It wasn't broken, they fixed it and now I have to customize it with time to gain some of the usability back that I had before. However even after customizing to the max, it still won't be as good. Another dejavu from the famous neocom.

If website which needs folder full of bookmarks is 2012 style, so be it... Thankfully customers are always wrong and CCP always thinks before doing something stupid.

(but yes - this suggestion you made seems to be only valid way to make it somewhat work atm - thanks for that)

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest

Berke Negri
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#51 - 2012-02-07 19:16:24 UTC
you sperglords are overlooking the real issue with the new website:

rifters are not included in the spaceships in eve list
FeralShadow
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2012-02-07 19:25:49 UTC
As a bittervet I like it a lot. I may never use it again after today, but I can see the value for new players.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Sarpadeon
Rebirth Industries
#53 - 2012-02-07 19:32:02 UTC
the new site is a flash based abomination, adding at least 1 click or hover-over for everything.

even overlooking the massive gaping wound to security that flash is the web page now takes something like 4x the resources to load for no real functionality improvement, and loads a bunch of non-CCP scripts in the background for amazon, facebook, twitter, google, and youtube.

seriously why the hell is amazon running a script on the main page? it went from 1 script set(CCP's eveonline.com) to EIGHT.
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#54 - 2012-02-07 19:38:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Pak Narhoo
Sarpadeon wrote:
the new site is a flash based abomination, adding at least 1 click or hover-over for everything.

even overlooking the massive gaping wound to security that flash is the web page now takes something like 4x the resources to load for no real functionality improvement, and loads a bunch of non-CCP scripts in the background for amazon, facebook, twitter, google, and youtube.

seriously why the hell is amazon running a script on the main page? it went from 1 script set(CCP's eveonline.com) to EIGHT.



Lol, dude its HTML 5 no flash at all since flash is dead.

Its 11 java scripts that load externally and 11 images. Because ccs is not on top of the file before other stuff loads, the css and embedded in css images loading takes therefor time.
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2012-02-07 19:42:48 UTC
Pak Narhoo wrote:
Sarpadeon wrote:
the new site is a flash based abomination, adding at least 1 click or hover-over for everything.

even overlooking the massive gaping wound to security that flash is the web page now takes something like 4x the resources to load for no real functionality improvement, and loads a bunch of non-CCP scripts in the background for amazon, facebook, twitter, google, and youtube.

seriously why the hell is amazon running a script on the main page? it went from 1 script set(CCP's eveonline.com) to EIGHT.



Lol, dude its HTML 5 no flash at all since flash is dead.

Yea anyways he has a point there... these are the elements eveonline.com is loading:

http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.7.1/jquery.min.js
http://apis.google.com/js/plusone.js
http://connect.facebook.net/en_US/all.js#xfbml=1
http://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js
http://platform.twitter.com/widgets/hub.1326407570.html
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http://platform.twitter.com/widgets/tweet_button.1326407570.html#_=1328643599480&_version=2&count=none&enableNewSizing=false&id=twitter-widget-0&lang=en&original_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eveonline.com%2F&related=ccpgames&size=m&text=EVE%20Online%20is%20a%20Massive%20Multiplayer%20Online%20Roleplaying%20Space%20Game%20-%20EVE%20Online&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DHrrVDV_NsNo&via=eveonline
http://s3.amazonaws.com/searchdiscovery-satellite-production/989cd5ae2a7d68ee72ae2217be6c163bba2377a8/satelliteLib-611349f4b5336c8f1030a2597d7e1f99cd493874.js
http://s3.amazonaws.com/searchdiscovery-satellite-production/satellite.js
http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/rsrc.php/v1/y7/r/ql9vukDCc4R.png
http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/rsrc.php/v1/yC/r/XMe1EwAvcCe.js
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http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/videos/crucible/EVE_Crucible_jpg_1080_t.jpg
http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/videos/crucible/EVE_Crucible_ogv_360.ogv
http://www.eveonline.com/
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/css/styles-120206224603.css
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/frontpage/callout_1_bg.jpg
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/frontpage/callout_2_bg.jpg
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/frontpage/callout_3_bg.jpg
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/frontpage/crucible.jpg
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/frontpage/new-site-notice-bg.png
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/layout/bg_frontpage.jpg
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/layout/esrbnotrated.png
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/layout/eve.png
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/layout/footer_social_media.png
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/layout/loginwidget-arrows.png
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/layout/paging_dot.png
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/layout/pegiinfo.png
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/layout/pegirating.png
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/videoskin_eveonline.png
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/videoskin_sharing_bg.png
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/js/libs/modernizr-2.0.6.min.js
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/js/plugins-120206224603.min.js
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/js/scripts-120206224603.min.js
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/webfonts/style_32933.woff
http://www.eveonline.com/frontpagetwitter/
http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?channel_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs-static.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fconnect%2Fxd_proxy.php%3Fversion%3D3%23cb%3Df194d63ab39b1be%26origin%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.eveonline.com%252Ff2d8654134a905%26relation%3Dparent.parent%26transport%3Dpostmessage&colorscheme=light&extended_social_context=false&href=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DHrrVDV_NsNo&layout=button_count&locale=en_US&node_type=link&sdk=joey&send=false&show_faces=false&width=90
http://www.google-analytics.com/ga.js
http://www.youtube.com/v/HrrVDV_NsNo?theme=dark&autohide=1&modestbranding=1&showinfo=0&rel=0&fs=1&enablejsapi=1
https://apis.google.com/_/apps-static/_/js/gapi/gcm_ppb,googleapis_client,plusone/rt=j/ver=AGJxsnkcdP8.fi./sv=1/am=!uXA1SJUHioGIFdxJYA/d=1/cb=gapi.loaded0
https://apis.google.com/_/apps-static/_/js/gapi/googleapis_client,iframes_styles_bubble_internal/rt=j/ver=AGJxsnkcdP8.fi./sv=1/am=!uXA1SJUHioGIFdxJYA/d=1/
https://plusone.google.com/_/+1/fastbutton?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DHrrVDV_NsNo&size=medium&count=true&annotation=none&hl=en-US&jsh=m%3B%2F_%2Fapps-static%2F_%2Fjs%2Fgapi%2F__features__%2Frt%3Dj%2Fver%3DAGJxsnkcdP8.fi.%2Fsv%3D1%2Fam%3D!uXA1SJUHioGIFdxJYA%2Fd%3D1%2F#id=I1_1328643599548&parent=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eveonline.com&rpctoken=882129747&_methods=onPlusOne%2C_ready%2C_close%2C_open%2C_resizeMe%2C_renderstart
https://plusone.google.com/_/apps-static/_/js/plusone/p1b,p1p/rt=j/ver=0nr0euerNok.en_US./sv=1/am=!MtDb7_hxRAnlmGvm/d=1/
https://plusone.google.com/_/apps-static/_/ss/plusone/ver=nq6k4lt6omn2/am=!MtDb7_hxRAnlmGvm/bf=wgE/r=O
https://ssl.gstatic.com/s2/oz/images/stars/po/Publisher/sprite2.png

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest

Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#56 - 2012-02-07 19:46:15 UTC
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
Pak Narhoo wrote:
Sarpadeon wrote:
the new site is a flash based abomination, adding at least 1 click or hover-over for everything.

even overlooking the massive gaping wound to security that flash is the web page now takes something like 4x the resources to load for no real functionality improvement, and loads a bunch of non-CCP scripts in the background for amazon, facebook, twitter, google, and youtube.

seriously why the hell is amazon running a script on the main page? it went from 1 script set(CCP's eveonline.com) to EIGHT.



Lol, dude its HTML 5 no flash at all since flash is dead.

Yea anyways he has a point there... these are the elements eveonline.com is loading:

http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.7.1/jquery.min.js
http://apis.google.com/js/plusone.js
http://connect.facebook.net/en_US/all.js#xfbml=1
http://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js
http://platform.twitter.com/widgets/hub.1326407570.html
http://platform.twitter.com/widgets/images/btn.c5bcc9de085c51bf889f6a8f33128be2.png
http://platform.twitter.com/widgets/images/t.gif?_=1328643599480&_version=2&count=none&enableNewSizing=false&id=twitter-widget-0&lang=en&original_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eveonline.com%2F&related=ccpgames&size=m&text=EVE%20Online%20is%20a%20Massive%20Multiplayer%20Online%20Roleplaying%20Space%20Game%20-%20EVE%20Online&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DHrrVDV_NsNo&via=eveonline&type=share&twttr_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eveonline.com%2F&twttr_widget=1&twttr_li=0&twttr_pid=v1%3A1325785783334495947014
http://platform.twitter.com/widgets/tweet_button.1326407570.html#_=1328643599480&_version=2&count=none&enableNewSizing=false&id=twitter-widget-0&lang=en&original_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eveonline.com%2F&related=ccpgames&size=m&text=EVE%20Online%20is%20a%20Massive%20Multiplayer%20Online%20Roleplaying%20Space%20Game%20-%20EVE%20Online&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DHrrVDV_NsNo&via=eveonline
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http://www.eveonline.com/
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http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/frontpage/callout_1_bg.jpg
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/frontpage/callout_2_bg.jpg
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/frontpage/callout_3_bg.jpg
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/frontpage/crucible.jpg
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/frontpage/new-site-notice-bg.png
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/layout/bg_frontpage.jpg
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/layout/esrbnotrated.png
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http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/layout/paging_dot.png
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/layout/pegiinfo.png
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/layout/pegirating.png
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/videoskin_eveonline.png
http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/img/videoskin_sharing_bg.png
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http://www.eveonline.com/ccp/js/scripts-120206224603.min.js
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ShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShocked

LMAO!

It looks good therefor it must be good?
Msgerbs
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2012-02-07 19:46:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Msgerbs
I have no problem with adding fancy graphics and new player information dropdowns... But now I have to go to a different website just to get what I want. What was wrong with having a menu bar down the side of the page showing all the different pages? I'm all for making it more new-player friendly, but maybe it EXCLUSIVELY new-player oriented is a terrible move. The website wasn't what got me into EVE, and personally I'm not sure I want to fly with somebody who joined EVE because there were fancy pictures on the front page. The Sandbox section also implies that you're locked into a certain character type, or at least it doesn't specifically say otherwise.
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#58 - 2012-02-08 16:22:14 UTC
Fine, new BMs made now i found everything i use.

panic over, go back to tending your mining fields

Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.

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