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Berkshire and Strohman Investments?

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karesuto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-02-07 07:40:49 UTC
Came across these guys today
BSI

Run by Sarillis Strohman

Has anyone had any sort of dealings with them at all? I was unable to find much info.
Singeabooty Raj
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-02-07 08:02:40 UTC
The names Hodsworth Berkshire and Sarillis Strohman are certainly impressive pomposity wise.

Black Man with Goggles

Tekota
The Freighter Factory
#3 - 2012-02-07 08:51:31 UTC
No I haven't heard. Bio on "Hodsworth Berkshire" claims that they've raised 48bn in the last six days from 172 shareholders, 25 corps and 4 "sizeable" alliances. Meanwhile, eyebrows have raised 48mm at Tek Towers.

They seem to be following something of a Phaser Inc pattern in staying the hell away from the forums, where they figure they'll be ripped to shreds, making grand (unsubstantiated) claims, and doing an above average job of presentation.

That's not to say this'll end the same way Phaser Inc did.... but with an, albeit cursory, sniff it does smell a bit odd.
seany1212
M Y S T
#4 - 2012-02-07 10:09:47 UTC
INB4 EVE Bank, Phaser Inc, (Berkshire and Strohman?)....
Buruk Utama
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-02-07 11:54:38 UTC
Interesting write up they use a ton of words to give no relevant information at all. I applaud them for the scam setup . They need to sprinkle more details to make it more convincing instead of using generalizations. That way it looks like they really have a plain.
Karak Bol
Low-Sec Survival Ltd.
#6 - 2012-02-07 12:12:26 UTC
Ah little hint from germany: Strohman means as much as Strawman, or basically Alt. With such a name, I doubt that this is for real
Whiteknight03
Trilon Industries and Exploration
#7 - 2012-02-07 14:04:10 UTC
I've had a chat with Sarillis in Amarr local recently. Every question as to legitimacy, posting on MD, or other forms of determining whether their "business" is legitimate are met with evasions. For example, the reason given for the lack of MD thread was that "the thread would be trolled".

However, Sarillis was quite a good sport about it, and courteous. I wish her luck in her scamming endeavors.
Nex apparatu5
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2012-02-07 14:13:14 UTC
It's a pretty good scam. They use a lot of financial words and verbiage to make the average person say "damn, this guy knows his ****" while not actually saying anything at all. They're staying away from the forums like Phaser Inc. did, which is a good move. What they really need, though, is a website. A Google Doc just looks unprofessional. I might just copy this doc, replace some names and follow them around spamming my version of it just for fun.
Buruk Utama
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-02-07 15:35:58 UTC
Nex apparatu5 wrote:
It's a pretty good scam. They use a lot of financial words and verbiage to make the average person say "damn, this guy knows his ****" while not actually saying anything at all. They're staying away from the forums like Phaser Inc. did, which is a good move. What they really need, though, is a website. A Google Doc just looks unprofessional. I might just copy this doc, replace some names and follow them around spamming my version of it just for fun.


Throw up a word press site for each section with all the charts too for the interactive experience.
Therese Ishihara
Council of Exiles
Brave Collective
#10 - 2012-02-07 16:30:25 UTC
It's obviously not a scam - the document they link to in their advertisements says there's absolutely no risk and it's even guaranteed!
Julian Koll
The Kollektive
#11 - 2012-02-07 23:05:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Julian Koll
for the record, this will be a scam and every moron who invests a single isk there deserves to lose that investment.
might take em a while to run with the isk, but run they will.
morrosis
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-02-07 23:18:56 UTC  |  Edited by: morrosis
karesuto, is my ALT. I have invested 100mil. If I lose the money then may their names be forever shamed and spat on. I will keep people informed regarding how this goes over time.


Total amount invested: 100mil
Loss to date Current of 08/02/2012 : 100mil.
total profit: Nil


The reasoning behind the 100 mil investment is it is large enough to make decent returns and small enough not to be missed if lost via scam.
David Forge
GameOn Inc.
#13 - 2012-02-08 00:39:03 UTC
These guys have graphs and use some pretty big words, it's obviously the real deal.

Really though, that is an awfully good presentation. Almost certainly a scam, but really nice writing.
Hedion Guard
Vendetta Group
#14 - 2012-02-08 00:42:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Hedion Guard
I have been an account holder of BSI for a total of 13 days. To date below is the total profit made from 3 my investments that total only 300 million.

Total Invested Amount: 1,500,000,000.00 Billion ISK
Loss to Date: 0.00 ISK
Total Profit Earned: 10,657,397.58 ISK
Length of Term for Profit: 13 days

BSI has kept to their words and I consider them a trustworthy company compaired to other investment firms.
Mu-Shi Ai
Hosono House
#15 - 2012-02-08 01:05:57 UTC
Hedion Guard wrote:
I have been an account holder of BSI for a total of 13 days. To date below is the total profit made from 3 my investments that total only 300 million.

Total Invested Amount: 1,500,000,000.00 Billion ISK
Loss to Date: 0.00 ISK
Total Profit Earned: 10,657,397.58 ISK
Length of Term for Profit: 13 days

BSI has kept to their words and I consider them a trustworthy company compaired to other investment firms.


Except ponzi scheme.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#16 - 2012-02-08 01:22:35 UTC
morrosis wrote:
karesuto, is my ALT. I have invested 100mil. If I lose the money then may their names be forever shamed and spat on. I will keep people informed regarding how this goes over time.


Total amount invested: 100mil
Loss to date Current of 08/02/2012 : 100mil.
total profit: Nil


The reasoning behind the 100 mil investment is it is large enough to make decent returns and small enough not to be missed if lost via scam.


Their reasoning behind your 100M investment is it large enough to turn them a profit because many will risk "just 100M" and small enough to not raise a fuss when it will turn into a scam.
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#17 - 2012-02-08 03:15:17 UTC
Hedion Guard wrote:
I have been an account holder of BSI for a total of 13 days. To date below is the total profit made from 3 my investments that total only 300 million.

Total Invested Amount: 1,500,000,000.00 Billion ISK
Loss to Date: 0.00 ISK
Total Profit Earned: 10,657,397.58 ISK
Length of Term for Profit: 13 days

BSI has kept to their words and I consider them a trustworthy company compaired to other investment firms.

Came expecting ponzi alt, left satisfied.
Elijah Bry'an Baudoin
EVE Exchange
#18 - 2012-02-08 07:37:46 UTC
Hedion Guard wrote:
I have been an account holder of BSI for a total of 13 days. To date below is the total profit made from 3 my investments that total only 300 million.

Total Invested Amount: 1,500,000,000.00 Billion ISK
Loss to Date: 0.00 ISK
Total Profit Earned: 10,657,397.58 ISK
Length of Term for Profit: 13 days

BSI has kept to their words and I consider them a trustworthy company compaired to other investment firms.
Interesting.

Timing is everything with these types of investments - legitimate or not.
Buruk Utama
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-02-08 13:58:32 UTC
Hedion Guard wrote:
I have been an account holder of BSI for a total of 13 days. To date below is the total profit made from 3 my investments that total only 300 million.

Total Invested Amount: 1,500,000,000.00 Billion ISK
Loss to Date: 0.00 ISK
Total Profit Earned: 10,657,397.58 ISK
Length of Term for Profit: 13 days

BSI has kept to their words and I consider them a trustworthy company compaired to other investment firms.


Um "my investments that total only 300 million" followed by "Total Invested Amount: 1,500,000,000.00 Billion ISK". Remember to make your numbers match next time. One is a 3.5% return and one is a .007% return which you can do better by putting the 1.5billion into a bond, or was it 3.5% on 300m, please tell us which number is the lie.
David Forge
GameOn Inc.
#20 - 2012-02-08 15:48:32 UTC
Investments exceeding [Evil Villain Voice]One billion dollars![/Evil Villain Voice] are given the "James Bond" interest rate of .007%.
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