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Razeak
AionTech Inc.
#1 - 2012-02-07 12:08:04 UTC
Hi,

I just purchased a C2 wormhole, however I've noticed that there are no anomalies left in the system. Any idea when or if these anomalies will return? It seems the person i bought this off farmed them all up.

Thx.
Bent Barrel
#2 - 2012-02-07 12:28:32 UTC
Razeak wrote:
Hi,

I just purchased a C2 wormhole, however I've noticed that there are no anomalies left in the system. Any idea when or if these anomalies will return? It seems the person i bought this off farmed them all up.

Thx.


you "purchased" a C2 wormhole ? how is that possible ?
Razeak
AionTech Inc.
#3 - 2012-02-07 12:36:50 UTC
Bent Barrel wrote:
Razeak wrote:
Hi,

I just purchased a C2 wormhole, however I've noticed that there are no anomalies left in the system. Any idea when or if these anomalies will return? It seems the person i bought this off farmed them all up.

Thx.


you "purchased" a C2 wormhole ? how is that possible ?


Yes! Wormholes are bought and sold all the time.
One player finds a hole then sells them too other players who are looking for one.
I'm sure you already know this and are trolling with semantics.
Any else care to answer my question?

Thx.
Webcam Girl
Black Ice Protectorate
#4 - 2012-02-07 12:50:34 UTC
Razeak: The spawn rate for anomalies/signatures is not fixed or incredibly linear. There is a theory (some say it was confirmed by a dev post sometime somewhere) that when a particularly anomaly is finished or despawns in one wormhole system, it will immediatelly respawn in another wormhole of the same constellation or region.

That said, they don't seem to take long to spawn in C2s, maybe a sign that the theory is true, given that lower classes are easier to be soloed and there are more people living on and farming them.

When I lived in a C2 i think the average spawn ratio would be of about 2-3 anoms per day. The key word being average (sometimes 2 days would pass with nothing new, other times i'd get 5-6 new ones in a day).
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#5 - 2012-02-07 12:54:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Roime
[edit: fast Webcam Girl is fast]

Next downtime?

Commonly agreed theory states that anomalies and signatures spawn in another wormhole after completion. This would explain why some holes have huge amounts of sites, while some feel like they have run dry. Supposedly they spawn in the same constellation or region like in k-space, but this is pretty hard to prove, and afaik wh constellations were scrapped as a concept.

Some people believe that prolonged inhabitation of a system decreases site spawn rate, but this is also explained by the more common theory above.

All you can really is wait for new sites, and do sites in the connecting wormholes.

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Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2012-02-07 22:02:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Substantia Nigra
Previous two responders are correct:
- Anoms spawning in your system is probably related to them being completed / cleared in other similar systems;
- C2s respawn sites fairly quickly, 2 - 3 per day on average (but that means you can go several days with nothing spawning, or longer periods with nothing that you like spawning).

[Downtime doesn't seem to make a difference ... they pop-up at anytime, as the whim takes them]

This has a couple of upshots. Firstly w-space life often requires patience ... lots of patience. When you visit other C2s with lots of sigs and anoms you'd be doing a community service (and prolly helping yourself also) by commencing a warp-to the grid of each of those locations. That will activate their despawn timer and, whether they are cleared or not, they will despawn (and respawn) a few days later. Even better (for you) if you clear them all rather than just start their despawn timer.

Whenever I am in the process of moving into a new w-system, before I have everything setup, I make sure I despawn all sites. The benefit may be small but I reason that: It makes my scanning easier for the wormholes I am using to bring stuff into the system; and it makes the system less obviously attractive to the passing visitor (so I may be slightly less likely to have someone try grab the system while I am still setting up).

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
drdxie
#7 - 2012-02-07 23:47:52 UTC
Anoms will not despawn if you warp to the.. you can kill half the rats and warp away, and they will stay there till someone runs it. There are however some anom's that will despawn after a specific rat is killed. Sig's,ie Mag's and Radar's on the other hand will despawn if warped to, but who in their right mind will take the time to scan them down and not run them.

To the poster, keep an eye on staticmapper, someone could also be ninj'a ing your wh, most WH dwellers will run the connecting wh's, especially a C2. You can run them in a PVP drake and that way get some PVP fun too, or so I have heard Twisted. Also best way to stop them if you not great at pvp or solo.. is bomb their wrecks..

Caldari Loving needed.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1608277&#post1608277
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2012-02-07 23:55:12 UTC
drdxie wrote:
Anoms will not despawn if you warp to the..


I live in w-space, and have done so for couple years now, and this comment is not correct.

All w-space cosmic signatures and anomalies will despawn without your completing them. I guess it prolly comes back to the patience thing I mentioned earlier :-)

What happens is:
- When anyone commences a warp to anywhere on the grid of the sig / anom a timer starts ticking. This occurs whether or not anyone actually lands on the site's grid. It also occurs when the warp is to 100km from the WIP, and also if the warping ship is cloaked.
- If the site is not cleared in the meantime then it disappears when that timer finishes its ticking. The timer is not a short-attention-span matter, and runs for 1 - 3 days.

This is a dynamic that we use regularly in our day-to-day w-system management. It's kinda bread-and-butter to us, so I'd be very unhappy to now learn that it doesn't actually work that way :-)

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
Anvil44
Avedis Corporation
The Vanguard Syndicate
#9 - 2012-02-08 00:01:51 UTC
Substantia Nigra wrote:
drdxie wrote:
Anoms will not despawn if you warp to the..


I live in w-space, and have done so for couple years now, and this comment is not correct.

All w-space cosmic signatures and anomalies will despawn without your completing them. I guess it prolly comes back to the patience thing I mentioned earlier :-)

What happens is:
- When anyone commences a warp to anywhere on the grid of the sig / anom a timer starts ticking. This occurs whether or not anyone actually lands on the site's grid. It also occurs when the warp is to 100km from the WIP, and also if the warping ship is cloaked.
- If the site is not cleared in the meantime then it disappears when that timer finishes its ticking. The timer is not a short-attention-span matter, and runs for 1 - 3 days.

This is a dynamic that we use regularly in our day-to-day w-system management. It's kinda bread-and-butter to us, so I'd be very unhappy to now learn that it doesn't actually work that way :-)


I can confirm this is correct as we learned in our wh the hard way about 18 months ago.

Someone thought they had bought our WH. They were wrong...

I may not like you or your point of view but you have a right to voice it.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#10 - 2012-02-08 05:31:12 UTC
Substantia nigra has the right of it.

If you are stuck in a wormhole due to SNAFU, and you have probes, but there are 30+ signatures and you spend all night scanning your way out, eg; with a core probe on a Domi, and your exit is to Nullsec or something equally horrible, and you are faced with having to stay another 16-24 hours....then probe all your ladars and gravs, and warp to the bloody things to start that timer ticking and get rid of them. You can even trash the mags and radars if your static exit is weak (like a C1 exit from a C5) and easily confused with mag and radars of similar strength.

In 3 to 4 days you will have cleared the system of almost all non-static sigs and you'll be able to scan your new exit inside of 30 minutes.

Believe me, sometimes this is the only way to get out without horrible brain death. But like Subs said...attention span and PATIENCE.

~~ Localectomy Blog ~~
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-02-08 10:09:20 UTC
Razeak wrote:
Hi,

I just purchased a C2 wormhole, however I've noticed that there are no anomalies left in the system. Any idea when or if these anomalies will return? It seems the person i bought this off farmed them all up.

Thx.



Since you're new to w-space here's some advice: As already stated anoms will respawn. But, if you're intent is to live there and farm it be aware that it will not generate substantial income for more than one person over a given period. The advice is you farm the systems that your system statics to. If it's other C2's or C3's be aware that they are mostly inhabited and will also be depleted of anoms. Good luck!

Don't ban me, bro!
Bent Barrel
#12 - 2012-02-08 14:22:39 UTC
Razeak wrote:
Bent Barrel wrote:
Razeak wrote:
Hi,

I just purchased a C2 wormhole, however I've noticed that there are no anomalies left in the system. Any idea when or if these anomalies will return? It seems the person i bought this off farmed them all up.

Thx.


you "purchased" a C2 wormhole ? how is that possible ?


Yes! Wormholes are bought and sold all the time.
One player finds a hole then sells them too other players who are looking for one.
I'm sure you already know this and are trolling with semantics.
Any else care to answer my question?

Thx.


hmm that's news to me ... I do find lot's of those systems as by-product to my main exploration acitivities ... I'd never consider wasting isk on "getting a WH".
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#13 - 2012-02-08 14:55:12 UTC
Bent Barrel wrote:


hmm that's news to me ... I do find lot's of those systems as by-product to my main exploration acitivities ... I'd never consider wasting isk on "getting a WH".


Anyone can find a wormhole, but people are willing to pay for empty ones of specific class, with suitable statics and good selection of planets, or possibly one including a POS and capital ships.

.
Arazel Chainfire
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-02-08 16:03:25 UTC
Roime wrote:
Bent Barrel wrote:


hmm that's news to me ... I do find lot's of those systems as by-product to my main exploration acitivities ... I'd never consider wasting isk on "getting a WH".


Anyone can find a wormhole, but people are willing to pay for empty ones of specific class, with suitable statics and good selection of planets, or possibly one including a POS and capital ships.


Or for specific inhabited WH's for... entertainment...

-Arazel
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#15 - 2012-02-08 16:49:25 UTC
I thought I included that option in the last sentence Pirate

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Lorkin Desal
That Hole Over There
#16 - 2012-02-08 18:00:40 UTC
Webcam Girl wrote:
Razeak: The spawn rate for anomalies/signatures is not fixed or incredibly linear. There is a theory (some say it was confirmed by a dev post sometime somewhere) that when a particularly anomaly is finished or despawns in one wormhole system, it will immediatelly respawn in another wormhole of the same constellation or region.




Nope, disproved by uh, hell I forgot his name. A player disproved it anyhow.
Jem Orebreaker
The Golden Koo Koo Roos
#17 - 2012-02-08 18:20:10 UTC
Lorkin Desal wrote:
Webcam Girl wrote:
Razeak: The spawn rate for anomalies/signatures is not fixed or incredibly linear. There is a theory (some say it was confirmed by a dev post sometime somewhere) that when a particularly anomaly is finished or despawns in one wormhole system, it will immediatelly respawn in another wormhole of the same constellation or region.




Nope, disproved by uh, hell I forgot his name. A player disproved it anyhow.



You arent real. It was disproved by uh, hell i forgot his name. A player disproved it anyhow.
Lorkin Desal
That Hole Over There
#18 - 2012-02-08 19:39:19 UTC
Jem Orebreaker wrote:
Lorkin Desal wrote:
Webcam Girl wrote:
Razeak: The spawn rate for anomalies/signatures is not fixed or incredibly linear. There is a theory (some say it was confirmed by a dev post sometime somewhere) that when a particularly anomaly is finished or despawns in one wormhole system, it will immediatelly respawn in another wormhole of the same constellation or region.




Nope, disproved by uh, hell I forgot his name. A player disproved it anyhow.



You arent real. It was disproved by uh, hell i forgot his name. A player disproved it anyhow.



Fitz VonHeise - go ask him for the link.
Arazel Chainfire
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-02-09 03:36:30 UTC
Lorkin Desal wrote:
Jem Orebreaker wrote:
Lorkin Desal wrote:
Webcam Girl wrote:
Razeak: The spawn rate for anomalies/signatures is not fixed or incredibly linear. There is a theory (some say it was confirmed by a dev post sometime somewhere) that when a particularly anomaly is finished or despawns in one wormhole system, it will immediatelly respawn in another wormhole of the same constellation or region.




Nope, disproved by uh, hell I forgot his name. A player disproved it anyhow.



You arent real. It was disproved by uh, hell i forgot his name. A player disproved it anyhow.



Fitz VonHeise - go ask him for the link.


IIRC, it wasn't disproved that it respawns immediately in another WH system. It was proven that it doesn't respawn immediately in another WH in that constelation. As far as I know, no one has done a region wide check (because that is a lot of frigging systems), much less an eve-wide check.

-Arazel
Bent Barrel
#20 - 2012-02-09 07:32:53 UTC
Roime wrote:
Bent Barrel wrote:


hmm that's news to me ... I do find lot's of those systems as by-product to my main exploration acitivities ... I'd never consider wasting isk on "getting a WH".


Anyone can find a wormhole, but people are willing to pay for empty ones of specific class, with suitable statics and good selection of planets, or possibly one including a POS and capital ships.




aaah. new business options for my explorer character :-) have to look for the details ....
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