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Mouse support for dust confirmed, hooray !!

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Il Feytid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-02-07 08:41:57 UTC
Wow. Mouse and keyboard support and there is still PC tears about it. When are you guys going to get it through your thick, stubborn, dumb, ******* head DUST 514 was not intended for the PC gamer market, but for the console gamer market?

Get a grip already!
Valei Khurelem
#22 - 2012-02-07 08:47:16 UTC

Quote:
Get a grip already!


The only reason they're making Dust 514 is to make money out of gullible people like you when it's obvious just how easy it would be for CCP to make the game for the PC as well and release it as an expansion.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium
fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2012-02-07 09:11:04 UTC  |  Edited by: fuer0n
Marlona Sky wrote:
Wow. Mouse and keyboard support and there is still PC tears about it. When are you guys going to get it through your thick, stubborn, dumb, ******* head DUST 514 was not intended for the PC gamer market, but for the console gamer market?

Get a grip already!


this way they get both. pc gamers will usually drop more cash on a gfx card (when it's time to replace) than what a ps3 costs. if the gameplay is any good i can see pc gamers buying a ps3 just for dust. this is why sony grabbed the chance they were given imo.
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2012-02-07 09:19:21 UTC
Personally i prefer using a controller/game-pad for shooters... I wonder if one method will offer an advantage.

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Degren
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-02-07 09:25:44 UTC
Rek Seven wrote:
Personally i prefer using a controller/game-pad for shooters... I wonder if one method will offer an advantage.


In every iteration of FPSs attempting to pit PC against console gamers, the PC gamers roflstomped the console gamers due to the advantages of the mouse/keyboard.

Hello, hello again.
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
#26 - 2012-02-07 09:26:57 UTC
Patient 2428190 wrote:
Just what a competitive FPS needs, two wildly different control mechanics playing the same game.

Absolute idiocy at its finest.




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Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#27 - 2012-02-07 09:29:10 UTC
Grideris wrote:
ThisIsntMyMain wrote:
Yeah, that all sounds great but CCP have previously said the the Keyboard and Mouse will have full support for CORP CHAT CHANNELS. So I won't be holding my breath until either CCP says the Mouse can be used for aiming ( which this article does NOT say ) or we get our hands on a beta key.


No I can tell you, they're referring to aiming in the match. And I'm the one that wrote the article.


that the question I wanted answered. How sure are you about this, because it sounds awesome. Although just how I can play dust on a ps3 with a mouse in the living room is a question. I think this will need some DIY work

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Grideris
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2012-02-07 10:43:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Grideris
Ciar Meara wrote:
Grideris wrote:
ThisIsntMyMain wrote:
Yeah, that all sounds great but CCP have previously said the the Keyboard and Mouse will have full support for CORP CHAT CHANNELS. So I won't be holding my breath until either CCP says the Mouse can be used for aiming ( which this article does NOT say ) or we get our hands on a beta key.


No I can tell you, they're referring to aiming in the match. And I'm the one that wrote the article.


that the question I wanted answered. How sure are you about this, because it sounds awesome. Although just how I can play dust on a ps3 with a mouse in the living room is a question. I think this will need some DIY work


100%. Baring some dev with a vendetta out to cause damage deleting all the code allowing this on the day before it goes out, it will be there. If you look at the original article (the one of dust514base, not Joystiq) we've got some confirmation from CCP. Alternatively you can look on twitter for CCP Jian, the executive producer for DUST 514, who tweeted to confirm that it's in after people didn't believe me. (To be honest, I didn't know whether to be offended or be happy that they might have a chance at surviving in EVE).

As far as mouse in the living room, I haven't tried it but I would assume that wireless mice work perfectly well with PS3s. Same with wireless keyboards. Even more so if you've got a Bluetooth mouse/keyboard, as the PS3 has a built in adapter (it's what the controllers and wireless headsets use).

http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial forum for everything DUST 514 http://www.dust514base.com -** the** blog site with everything else DUST 514 you need
Decus Daga
Unfit for Duty
#29 - 2012-02-07 11:02:31 UTC
This makes me want to play it on my PS3... i cant stand fps on a controller, it tends to fly across the room when i try :P
Roxwar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2012-02-07 11:33:31 UTC
My guess is they'd seperate the two methods.

You cant have 1 team using the standard controller and the opponents using KBaM, its crazy to even contemplate it.

If its all being played out on a single server - tranquility - they cant seperate in the true sense, but they would be able to limit lobbys to only KBaM or only Controller.
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#31 - 2012-02-07 11:51:22 UTC
As much as I am pleased they are doing this, it doesn't help me as I sit 6 foot from the TV on a leather couch.

No where to place the mouse, or keyboard.

AK

This space for rent.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#32 - 2012-02-07 11:53:20 UTC
AlleyKat wrote:
As much as I am pleased they are doing this, it doesn't help me as I sit 6 foot from the TV on a leather couch.

No where to place the mouse, or keyboard.

AK


So choose what you want to play with.

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The Original Alt
Doomheim
#33 - 2012-02-07 15:44:14 UTC
Degren wrote:
Rek Seven wrote:
Personally i prefer using a controller/game-pad for shooters... I wonder if one method will offer an advantage.


In every iteration of FPSs attempting to pit PC against console gamers, the PC gamers roflstomped the console gamers due to the advantages of the mouse/keyboard.


Such a bold statement like this sure could use some links to all those iterations they have done it. Do you have any credible sources?
Grideris
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-02-07 15:55:49 UTC
The Original Alt wrote:
Degren wrote:
Rek Seven wrote:
Personally i prefer using a controller/game-pad for shooters... I wonder if one method will offer an advantage.


In every iteration of FPSs attempting to pit PC against console gamers, the PC gamers roflstomped the console gamers due to the advantages of the mouse/keyboard.


Such a bold statement like this sure could use some links to all those iterations they have done it. Do you have any credible sources?


I can do that. Well, not quite as most people think.

http://www.dust514base.com/2012/02/what-is-mightier-mouse-or-controller.html

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/02/23/shadowrun-keyboard-versus-controller-in-the-final-battle/

And for the original "source" of Microsoft's trial between Xbox 360 and PC gamers, this looks to be it. Take it as you will.

http://www.rahulsood.com/2010/07/console-gamers-get-killed-against-pc.html

http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial forum for everything DUST 514 http://www.dust514base.com -** the** blog site with everything else DUST 514 you need
The Original Alt
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-02-07 16:13:15 UTC
Grideris wrote:
The Original Alt wrote:
Degren wrote:
Rek Seven wrote:
Personally i prefer using a controller/game-pad for shooters... I wonder if one method will offer an advantage.


In every iteration of FPSs attempting to pit PC against console gamers, the PC gamers roflstomped the console gamers due to the advantages of the mouse/keyboard.


Such a bold statement like this sure could use some links to all those iterations they have done it. Do you have any credible sources?


I can do that. Well, not quite as most people think.

http://www.dust514base.com/2012/02/what-is-mightier-mouse-or-controller.html

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/02/23/shadowrun-keyboard-versus-controller-in-the-final-battle/

And for the original "source" of Microsoft's trial between Xbox 360 and PC gamers, this looks to be it. Take it as you will.

http://www.rahulsood.com/2010/07/console-gamers-get-killed-against-pc.html


So the first link is just someone talking about the other two links. Second link is one where gamepad was the clear winner and the final one is one guy talking about him hearing it from another guy that the mouse+keyboard was the clear winner. Fascinating. You made it sound like you had dozens of examples, yet you have only two. And those are hardly anything to wave around as facts.
Famble
Three's a Crowd
#36 - 2012-02-07 16:27:21 UTC
Consider me officially excited. I will now buy this at the earliest possible moment. Thank you CCP for this. I had no intentions of playing this if it was only on the controller.

Word!

If anyone ever looks at you and says,_ "Hold my beer, watch this,"_  you're probably going to want to pay attention.
Grideris
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2012-02-07 16:27:28 UTC
It's a start. I'm sure if you want more you can google them yourself.

http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial forum for everything DUST 514 http://www.dust514base.com -** the** blog site with everything else DUST 514 you need
Famble
Three's a Crowd
#38 - 2012-02-07 16:35:32 UTC
My rational side is taking hold in my brain. I now fear a subtle crutch being added for the gamepad guys. The auto-aim mechanic. That little nudge the game gives a control pad user as he gets his reticule on target that finishes the aim so to speak. I hope that doesn't rear it's ugly head but if it does I hope it's very, very carefully balanced.

If anyone ever looks at you and says,_ "Hold my beer, watch this,"_  you're probably going to want to pay attention.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#39 - 2012-02-07 16:50:19 UTC
Leisen wrote:
THAT'S THE MOST AMAZING THING I'VE EVER SEEN! AN EXCLUSIVE GIMMICK FROM CCP!
“Exclusive” as in “built into the UnrealEngine 3 and already used in the console release of Unreal Tournament 3.”
Taedrin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-02-07 16:54:05 UTC
Famble wrote:
My rational side is taking hold in my brain. I now fear a subtle crutch being added for the gamepad guys. The auto-aim mechanic. That little nudge the game gives a control pad user as he gets his reticule on target that finishes the aim so to speak. I hope that doesn't rear it's ugly head but if it does I hope it's very, very carefully balanced.


Or as someone above mentioned, they could limit the sensitivity of your mouse so that it matches the sensitivity of the game pad.

Or they could take it a step further and make sensitivity part of the gameplay - i.e. heavier weapons are slower to move around and aim than lighter weapons. This allows you to split your gamepad users from your keyboard+mouse users. gamepad users would favor heavier armor and heavier weapons while keyboard+mouse users would favor lighter armor and lighter weapons which enable them to aim faster and better.

Both kinds of players will be needed, so players can choose the control scheme that fits their playstyle.
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