EVE General Discussion

I think part of your problem is that your posts are painful to read. Compared to everyone else's the differences are striking. Its hard to take you serious.

The almost completely player driven economy in Eve is one of its more ground breaking and important features. To remove it would destroy Eve's soul. Removing the market is not the answer to moving more people to low/null sec, shifting and creating resources/isk sinks are.

Furthermore, if you honestly think rewords are too low, you are either way too greedy, or incredibly bad at gaining such rewards. There are plenty of things in Eve that can be gained quite easily. Yes, many items, ships, what have you, are also challenging to acquire and use. However, is that not part of the attraction these things provide?

Because PvP is a blatantly rigged part of the game and anyone with half a brain recognises that and stays in high sec where they can earn ISK consistently without losing lots of it.

Case in point, I just tried to do a simple distribution mission in blood raider space, about four people saw me show up in local, then station camped me and when I tried getting out with my package they ganked me instantly and I was just in a noob minmatar ship.

I agree with you on that point, they need to vastly increase the ISK you get in 0.0 to cover the losses, this is why people stay in high sec so much as well, it's worth suffering a slightly lower profit if it means you aren't going to get ganked instantly any time you leave the station.

I make much more progress and ISK in this game being a carebear noob than I ever did trying to go into 0.0 space to earn ISK, the idea that you earn more by being there is a complete lie, to even be remotely safe in 0.0 you need to have a huge alliance behind your back or you are fair game even if you're nowhere near their sovereignty.

They make ISK and items from thin air readily available to certain groups of people so that logic doesn't make any sense, I'd seriously question the position of anyone in CCP who thinks like that and then puts in incursions.

Because people start in highsec, it has a great deal of things to do, it is the central hub of the universe and some people in general are risk averse/incompetent(They aren't the same, but the safety of highsec is comforting for both.). Highsec being a starter area is significant for obvious reasons. It's everyones first home and unless you specifically want to avoid staying there, it's what everyone gets familiar with first. It's also the place every alt not needing to be somewhere else will be at. Since it is also the hub of the universe where everyone comes to do business, almost everyone needs to maintain some kind of presence there. Point being highsec numbers will always be inflated no matter what happens.

Highsec also offers easy access to most of the different types of content the game offers or provides a base for short incursion in to other areas. Naturally there are differences when changing security areas, but the basic nature of the content doesn't change in the case of lowsec. The NPCs are just as ********(with more annoying neut towers), PI works the same and sites spawn just like in highsec. So if you make enough rewards to get by, there isn't that much incentive in moving just for the increased rewards, especially if you are risk averse. Naturally the increased rewards would be nice, but since you're hardly losing any ships in highsec anyway, the increased reward isn't that great of an incentive for everyone. I would suspect, that most players move because they want to live in different type of risk/reward environment or want to experience gameplay simply not available/possible in highsec.

Buffing the rewards of existing content would be nice, but I think ultimately such an approach won't be really effective. Reason being that lowsec is in the middle ground, so people who value safety will always choose highsec, while people who value high rewards will choose 0.0 or wormholes. Even the risk averse will be better of in 0.0 by joining an existing power block. So instead of fidling with the rewards, it's better and more productive to focus giving lowsec unique gameplay opportunities and a unique risk environment. Improving on faction warfare, focusing drug manufacturing there and keeping/creating restrictions like no bubbles are things I'm talking about. Try to create interesting gameplay, content and mechanics, that you can only experience in lowsec.

Yes, our player retention is so bad we are the only MMO to still be growing even after 9 years.

you are completely wrong about what I want
as you would know if you bothered to read.

I NEED to do lvl4 missions in highsec to support my game, or sell plex.

That or incursion grinding is it.

I am sick of missions

I want more sigs out there
I want a proper bounty system
I want lowsec to be a lucrative place that everyone wants to take a chance on.
I want ccp to hire someone with some imagination
And announce eves exciting future
Im sick of just stagnation
And devs fiddling with stuff they have no idea about

If you want an isk generating alternative to missioning, why don't you play the market? Oh, wait . . .

They can't ignore the market because the market is a core element of EVE.

I'm one of those players that believes items in EVE should be player built so the market and market prices are very important.




What would EVE be like without a worthwhile market, probably not worth playing.

@Op

You want your standings displayed according to your earlier post today. They're no longer there so you want to take other stuff out of EvE, starting with the market.

That's like taking all the spaceships out of EvE.

I can't wait to read what other suggestions you have.