Ships & Modules

I've been thinking about working towards a Tengu for missions. I don't have amazing skills, but I'd still like to use one, 'cause they seem like fun ships All the fits I've seen have too many faction modules and such that I don't really want to spend the ISK on. And the cheap ones don't seem to fit too well, or don't have enough cap.

Let me tell you that I don't care about 'efficiency' or 'ISK/hour ratios'. I just care about not losing my ship. So is this possible? Can you give me low-ish skill fit that will work, but not break the bank?

Have a look here. If you really don't want any faction damage mods then you could go 3 T2 BCS + co-pro. You'll lose a bit of DPS and for PVE ships I'd say that increasing your dps is always worthwhile. Also, the invul means you're not a oneshot for Tornados which is helpful (other than the fact that you're fairly cheaply fit). You could even get away with getting a cheaper shield booster but honestly, I urge you to use this one. And yeah you're right, most fits are made by people with a faction fetish, lacking braincells.

[Tengu, LVL 4 Guristas]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II

10MN Afterburner II
Pithi C-Type Small Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Invulnerability Field II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile

Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

yes.

If you fit a Fuel Catalyst you should fit an AB. Otherwise it would be silly to use the Fuel Catalyst to assemble your Tengu.


PS- Personally I like all of the above fits, but I'd fit heavy assaults instead of heavy missile. In which case you really need an AB, and might want to invest a bit more in a quality AB. In most L4s you can get by without the dead space Shield Booster, but you may end out warping out a fair bit.

Loosing speed, which is tank in and of itself, for more tank (especially omni, just fit appropriate racial hardeners) on a ship like the tengu is a bad idea.

[Tengu, Tengu Maxed]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

10MN Afterburner II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Target Painter II
Medium Shield Booster II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir

Quick question as I'm thinking of having an alt train up a tengu. If you use the cap regen sub can you perma boost? Thus not worrying about having to jump out less?

(Yes yes I'm aware you loose the 6th launcher.) I just hate having to warp in and out... Greater loss of time, and accel gates get annoying.

I may be new to this, but I'm not exactly poor I can get a couple of deadspace SSBs, and the faction AB, but nothing more. Is there a certain level where the DPS drops to what is considered shameful for a Tengu?

Yea this. I use a Loki on some L4's that are heavy with ECM on occasion and the afterburner is far and away the biggest "tank". EFT won't tell you that on the surface. In fact, you'll quickly discover that warp disruption is no longer the biggest fear in a mission but in fact it's now webbing frigs.

Slow = Death in a T3.

Cheap Tengu fit? Why?

You spend up to 500M for the dang ship and then you want to fit with cheap mods.

If you're going to go that route, then just use a Drake. The Tengu really comes alive with fits are are on the expensive side.

This topic has been around a couple of times before anyway.

I've run the Tengu in L4 missions since the ship came out, and have never had any problems in any mission.

I do not use an AB! I don't have to speed tank to mnimize damage. The Tengu takes it all, it's shields barely fluctuate from the incoming, even with 8 BS pounding away. The BC and Cruisers actually do more damage and I take them out first. I don't worry about any webbing frigates, because I'm usually sitting still anyway, and take them out later. Many times I leave the BSs for last. Their big guns just don't get thru the resists and the smaller sig.

I put on a LSE II from day one for a little security, and have just left it there. It is not needed. Lately, I've substituted it with a target painter.

Amp., Diss., Aug., Acc., Grav.

2x rigors, 1xflare

6xHML II

Pith C-Med SB
SBA II
hardener
resist amp
TP II
Cap Rec II

4xCNBCU

(low-grade crystals)

At one time I even tried 2 Pith C SSB, and 2 TP IIs, that even worked very well.

So please don't fit out a Tengu with cheap fittings. Wait until you can afford the good stuff.

I've also gone back to using the CNR for L4's. I don't have to move, unless I have to head to a gate.

-Kirst