Science & Industry

this is probebly a subtile topic, but:

When you mine, you do it for the money, i mean, you dont do it becouse you like it... i hope. And also when you trade, you do it for the money. But what if you have a few triljon isk and you trade..... and than what? In the end we all want pvp, right? You cant just switch from market skills to pvp skills. discuss

If you don't think that trading is a form of warfare, then you sir are ill informed about largescale warfare.

I switched from combat(PvE) to industry. I like number. For combat(PvP) I play other non MMO games.

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Every time I read forum posts about market 'stuff' that quote is always at the back of my mind.

Some people like relaxing after work, shooting the breeze over the humm of mining lasers.

Some people enjoy the spreadsheets of trade. And if you have a few trillion isk, you can easily trade some of that in for PvP SP and finance your acquisition of PvP skills.

In Trade, a player wins Eve if they have the most ISK when they die. ..... end of line......

Moving to null and doing pvp costs isk. I like not having to grind missions and anoms for isk.

Well, lets say you are a orca pilot. Your whole character life you have trained for mining skills and so. You cant just switch to a pvp pilot. You need way more, and way different skills for that.

Bah! My main can (and does) fly an Orca and a Rorq. (but haven't done the clone bay stuff since it doesn't work in w-space). Started as a miner (it is social and good way to learn the game), progressed into manufacturing and then some trade. Eventually got into invention. Parallel to this, I trained EWAR ships which can be quite useful for almost no input.

Then, they did away with learning skills, and I am suddenly a top-notch (skill-wise) command ship pilot for two races . Anyway, with a week or two of training, you CAN switch from industrial to low-level PvP. I have never bothered to train for large weapons and spent enough time in med. weapons to fly several effective command ships and battlecruisers, not to mention cruisers if you want to stay cheap. One advantage of industrial type player - I have had the same +5s in my mains head for a couple of years now, and I have clones here and there will +3 sets for combat and different warfare mindlinks.

Skill overlaps abound:
Engineering
Electronics
Hull Upgrades
Mechanic
etc.

Not to mention, almost all miners have some combat skills to allow them to grind some standings for tax relief...

I do like mining, it's perfect for grading papers and / or perparing things for the next day. Just keep half an eye on new ships warping in and you can make some ISK to pay for the ships you need when you do have time to pay attention to the game.