Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Am no trolling and again. No.

Far enough gank ships. Many more than need. They are break game. Too much power one ship.

Well if you cant to make the construction a bit more contoreded the tech 2 option is always there as well as tech 3 but we already have a tech 3 cruisers. However at that point you have to allow jump capabilities there is absolutely no reason why a ship between the size of a frigate and battleship cannot jump its one of those mordern military conviences.

However I see it being entirely possible to state a ship is TOO small to have such ability such as my corvette idea which is incapable of any methoods of intersystem travel other than being packaged in a hull of another ship.

Anyways back to the stealth generator.

We currenlty dont have a pernament cloak in eve and this ship would be the first of such mechanics.
The suggestion that it be tied into the shields is a semi good idea.

Semi good because eve has more than one methood of tanking the other being armor.

This is where the stealth system comes in. Stealth system could possibly be scripted to work on the primary tanking level of the ship and if you make it deactiate the cooldown timer starts which prevents rapid reactivation. Breaking the tank would cause the ship to lose the stealth.

Matter of factly this module can be so specific that if it was a said capitol ship this could be a 'stealth engine' which alters the mode of the ship from lets say recon travel fit to a gank mode.

Now currenlty we have no real way to fight cloaked ships there are however other ways.

The best idea I can think of is that the module would disrupt the covert ops cloak and swap into 'stealth' mode. While in stealth mode the ships sensors are pertty high and allows for pertty fast locks allowing to hot the 'insert name' launchers. onto a target.

While in stealth mode the ships signature radius is extremly low that even frigates may have a hard time locking it. To help balance tihngs along however would be that every amount of percent taken off from the layer of tank scripted that much more of the signature grows until oh lets say 50% of sealthing effectivness at breaking point.

While can treat this like a seige mode as well we can force the ship to be directional launching like bombs if we got the aoe option, low agility, low speed and cannot warp off.

Ultimately this allows the ship to get the first strike in and if lucky escape however it gives the ambushed if they survive the ability to strike back regardless of what ship class they are.

Now onto the numeration problem.

AOE is a well known factor for numeration Stealthbombers elegantly sovle this by having bombs within range destroy each other. I think the weapon needs to have similar constrains to prevent overdeployment.

Ultimately you get a perfect ambushing ship that can do the job black ops ships cant which is to go out and kill things.

We need to set the timer on the seige mode to be appropiate that a real sneak attack can be escaped from but a trap will not be as easily escapable. I think an appropitate cooldown of popping into stealth mode and back out would be 2 minutes.afterwhich you can recloak up and be about your merry way. and if caught the haggle of frigates and destroyers can easily start witteling away at the ship lowering its stealth ability to then let battleships finish her off either way she will die like most capitol caught alone like she should and she will never be a fleet centric ship.

Covert ops flag ship maybe but not the heart of any serious turf conquering fleets.

What do you think about the above methoods?

I purpose to name the laucnhers 'Reactor' Launchers as its the only exploding thing I know of that hasnt be used yet for missiles.

Do you want a repeat of that one scenario in Startrek? If you do not know what I am referring to, I will tell you:

The Enterprise flies into a field of cloaked Romulan mines. A malfunctioning one attaches the the ship's hull. In an attempt to disarm it, one of the magnetic legs to attach to the ship shoots through the leg of the person trying to disarm it.

Well I wouldn't take it that far on the Star Trek reference, and yes I do know what you are talking about, having seen the episode you are referring to.

My idea is simply the following:

Anchorable mines in space. Cloakable and of course regular without a cloak. Cloakable mines would naturally be more expensive(but not outrageous). Cheap to build due to the mechanics of it being small and just being a bomb with a proximity sensor on it. I would imagine it could be worked out by standings not to blow up blues. Only neutrals and negatives. Anything else in a technologically advanced society would be able to recognize its friendlies anyway with a simple computer with FoF recognition. Where and why? Put them around gates, on stations, common safe spot areas, blockade asteroid and ice belts, hell put mines in a warp bubble. Put them around the sun and near customs offices. The possibilities are simply endless for an enthusiastic mine layer.

These would be available only in low sec, null sec, wormhole space. Cloakable mines would be available to anchor only in null sec, as in low sec concord and the ruling races of said space in said low sec still have some control.

I believe that this in tandem with deployable weapons(without the need of a pos) around gates, stations, pocos, and other places would increase conflict in space and make more war. This would create more industry and it would also create more **** going on in the game.

Let's not make it a Booby Trap, but instead a bomb that blows the asteroid into tiny pieces of compressed minerals that can be scooped right up. The compressed minerals would be a result from all of the heat and pressure from the explosion, but the asteroid would absorb all of the blast preventing it from potentially harming players.

TL:DR
The explosive inside the asteroid is powerful enough to blow it up, but the rock around it dampens the blast and prevents it from doing damage.

Scientific Recap:
The heat and pressure from the shockwave essentially refine and compress the ore instantaniously. You will still have to uncompress it at the facility, though.

Make the sub only able to use this mine weapon, and it just became more balanced I think.

You take away someone's ability to anticipate your attack in any cloaked vessel, but at least this gives me back some control about dealing with it, and not just being ganked.

A bot just orbiting around would be the most vulnerable to this, as it would plow through them blindly, and blow itself to pieces. It would be the terror of botting players in that way...

I have an interation to add onto the reactor launchers, make the area irradiated preventing any new bombs from being launched into the area. This would change things up greatly.

Bot slayer! I can imagine suspected bots being ratted out to subs... Oooo yeah...

I agree that cloaky ships should have something that can fight back.

If you ever read the threads about AFK cloaking fears, they aren't worried about cloaked ships attacking them. Same reason the average guy is not terribly worried about a chihuahua attacking him.
They are worried about the cloaky guy doing a hot drop. That's it. At no point does the DPS of a cloaked vessel cause anyone great concern, mostly because they are less powerful in that category than their peers.

Now, as to the mine idea, read it again. There is no such thing as AFK mining, as the craft will auto-stop it's lasers when the hold is full. And if they see the ship suddenly surrounded by a cluster of mines, they can move out of the way once they get oriented on the path of least damage.

Now, a bot would either charge through them blindly, or ignore them. Both are bad reactions.

I see where the anti-bot idea came from, in hindsight, although I did not design the swarmpack mine with this in mind.

I have some new ideas:

Cloak-Radar-Thingy
Can be fitted to: Space-Submarine-Thingy

Radius: 10 - 30km
Damage: None
Abilities: Sends out a special Subspace frequency wave that deflects off of cloaked ships (when a ship cloaks, it only shows up on subspace sensors, a technology that was recently recovered from an ancient Terran vessel). When it hits a cloaked ship or mine or whatever, it sends the information back to the ship that emitted the wave. Once the signal returns, the ship detects the cloaked object and has X amount of time to tag it. Once the ship decloaks, the tag will automatically start locking onto the cloaked ship.

In addition, when you tag a cloaked ship with this item, you will see it on the overview and be able to approach or orbit it or whatever else you feel like.

Now I know that you would all have some problems with this, but I think it is better than decloaking everything within a certain radius. It wouldn't decloak things, and it would only allow the ship using the module to pick up the cloaked objects.

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Also, I think you should make this ship a Tech II Destroyer and not a Tech II Cruiser. We need more Tech II Destroyer variants.