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Best ship for Sansha Plexing

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emllik
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#1 - 2012-01-08 22:39:18 UTC
Hey there,

I apologise if this topic has been asked about numerous times, the search didn't come up with anything useful, hency why I am posting here.

I was wondering if there is a specific ship, for example Tengu's for Gurista/Serpentis plexing that can be used for Sansha plexing. I've done a bit of reading and found that most people tank with an AF and use their gang to kill the rats, but what is best for solo plexing?

I've been trying to create different T3 fits but haven't been able to find an appropriate one.

Any help with fits or specific ships would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
E

tl;dr: Best ship for Sansha plexing?
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Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-01-08 22:49:57 UTC
Abby can solo the Sansha 10/10
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Zarian Uphius
Adversity.
Psychotic Tendencies.
#3 - 2012-01-09 04:59:48 UTC
loki ftw.


the rest is easy
Liam Mirren
#4 - 2012-01-09 11:46:35 UTC
You'll want high base resists to EM/thermal so Minnie T2/T3 spring to mind and because of that the Loki (as per above). Not sure how much tank you'll need but an artie Loki with light drones would work fine imo.

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Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-01-09 13:51:41 UTC
Simple and doesnt break your wallet.

[Loki, Sansha plex]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor EM Hardener II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

10MN Afterburner II
Stasis Webifier II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Loki Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter
Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers
Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst


Hobgoblin II x5
emllik
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#6 - 2012-01-09 19:13:00 UTC
Thanks for all your replies.

It looks like Loki is the best choice, thank you for the fit.

E
Risting
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-02-03 11:17:06 UTC
Anyone tried it with a Varg ?
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#8 - 2012-02-03 15:00:04 UTC
Yep, the Loki is what I use myself too. Personally, I shield tank it, but that's mostly because I prefer shield tanking. It's nice that it's completely viable both shield and armor tanked.
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#9 - 2012-02-03 16:01:21 UTC
I've been tinkering with an Artillery Loki lately. I prefer active tank ships and I just speed tank (650+ m/s) and orbit about 30-40km out. I am still tinkering with a mix of low and mids for targeting mods and power, but this fit is roughly similar to what I am using. You might need to go with smaller guns depending on your skill set. I group the guns in pairs. I can target out to over 86km, optimal is 18km with short range ammo and falloff is 43km. The drone link is a personal choice, but I often swap it out for other toys.

Per my tastes, it is cap stable and not stupid expensive. I usually end up with a nice spiraling ring of wrecks in the pockets when I'm done.

[Loki, Arty PVE ship drones simple]
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Tracking Enhancer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

10MN Afterburner II
Medium Shield Booster II
Invulnerability Field II
Tracking Computer II

720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M
Drone Link Augmentor I

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
Loki Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier


Acolyte II x5
Acolyte II x5

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Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-02-03 18:40:36 UTC
MadMuppet wrote:

Acolyte II x5
Acolyte II x5


There is no reason to ever use these underpowered weak drones, use hobgobs.
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#11 - 2012-02-03 19:03:37 UTC
Nalha Saldana wrote:
MadMuppet wrote:

Acolyte II x5
Acolyte II x5


There is no reason to ever use these underpowered weak drones, use hobgobs.


There is actually a very good reason for using Acolytes over Hobs and the drone augmentation link is part of that. I can target the long range ships outside their engagement range and send the drones to harass them. Acolytes are much faster than Hobs so they can pull aggro and hold it, but they are too fast for the BS ships to pop them. They just sit and spin in place while I pick them off.

But yeah, under normal combat conditions I run 50/50 Acs/Hobs.

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Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-02-03 21:01:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Kietay Ayari
I use the Tengu for all Plexing. I know people think the Tengu is not good without its kinetic bonus but it can still equal or even outdamage other T3s with any damage type at similar ranges. I know the Tengu is better for other things but its still close to the best for this as well :3

[Tengu, OP Mini Golem]

Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile

Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Gistum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
Gist A-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Gist A-Type Photon Scattering Field
Gist A-Type Photon Scattering Field
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner

Damage Control II
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II

39km Range
741 EM DPS - with 2 implants (640 without)
1050 Sansha DPS Tank - with crystal set (684 without)
661m/s

For anyone curious this thing can get 988 DPS with Kinetic missiles if you replace the DCU with another BCU :3 Show me another T3 that can do this? Yes it is expensive btw :P But soloing anything short of a crazy torp 10/10 you'll earn that back pretty fast.

Edit: By the way you can use a HML fit for an even better tank since you will no longer need the TP and can fit another resist. With that you will have up to 1600 DPS Sansha tank and far more range and ability to hit frigates. You will just also lose some of the DPS. I just wanted to prove that it can equal the DPS of the other T3s without Kinetic ammo :3

Ferox #1

DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-02-03 21:55:48 UTC
Armageddon Navy Issue would be a very good choice if you can use Scorch, and have your T2 Gallente drone skills up to scratch.
Risting
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-02-04 08:35:10 UTC
Is the Navy Arma able to tank the plexes?

Also, I'd love to see a fit.
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#15 - 2012-02-05 04:24:15 UTC  |  Edited by: ACE McFACE
Risting wrote:
Is the Navy Arma able to tank the plexes?

Also, I'd love to see a fit.

Not sure about plexes but this will easily tank Sanctums. I had an Apoc (Not the faction one) that could tank them so this will be able to
[Armageddon Navy Issue, Amarr L4]

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Drone Link Augmentor I

Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
True Sansha Heavy Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800

Imperial Navy Large Armor Repairer
Imperial Navy Armor EM Hardener
Imperial Navy Armor Thermic Hardener
Imperial Navy Armor Thermic Hardener
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Tracking Enhancer II

Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Drone Speed Augmentor I
Large Energy Collision Accelerator I


Ogre II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

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Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#16 - 2012-02-05 07:04:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyrrashae
Has no-one considered the Munin?

E: Pretty sure it couldn't DPS high enough for the toughest plexes even if it could tank them, but seems a go for almost everything else.

Ni.

ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#17 - 2012-02-05 09:57:19 UTC
Cant a broadsword tank the 10/10 plex?

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emllik
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#18 - 2012-02-05 11:32:38 UTC
I thought I should post my experiences since posting this thread.

I decided to go for the armor tanked Loki. I've managed to solo everything up to and including 7/10 DED plexes and of course Sanctums. However, although the tank was sufficient for any escalations I came across, I really found the DPS lacking. For example, I couldn't even break the tank in a 8/10 DED that I found (Sorry, can't remember the name). I never progressed past any of the first rooms in escalations because I wanted to try and solo them so I can't tell you how I found those Citadel Torpedo rooms.

A corp-mate uses the Legion with some success, may be worth looking into.

Thanks for your posts thus far, it has certainly given me some other ships to consider!

E
kyrv
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-02-05 13:17:43 UTC
I'm dabbling with this setup but the dps is god awful.

[Paralux 1]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Photon Scattering Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Gist X-Type Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
True Sansha Cap Recharger
10MN Afterburner II
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II,EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II,EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II,EMP M
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II,Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II,Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II,Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II

Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Loki Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Loki Offensive - Hardpoint Efficiency Configuration
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Drones_Inactive=Vespa EC-600,4
Drones_Active=Hobgoblin II,5
Implant_Active=Skirmish Warfare Mindlink
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#20 - 2012-02-05 16:26:21 UTC
Gah, split weapons on a Loki, it makes me want to cry. Why do you feel the need to do that?