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Ares has no drone bay? wtf

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Verity Sovereign
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-02-04 20:14:17 UTC
The Ares is the only Gallente frigate (aside from the Nemesis stealth bomber) without a done bay, what gives?

(I recently got the skills to fly inties, already knew the Taranis fit 2 lights, and then was very dissappointed to find the Ares couldn't even fit 1)
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#2 - 2012-02-04 20:30:41 UTC
Why would the Ares need lights? None of the other tackle interceptors have them. In fact, the Taranis is the only interceptor that does have a drone bay, which is likely because it's a combat interceptor and is designed to deal damage. However, the purpose of the Ares is to keep people from running away, which isn't something that drones help with.
Verity Sovereign
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-02-04 20:46:19 UTC
Because its Gallente.
An ECM drone would be nice.
Maybe a big enough drone bay to fit a webber drone?
Take away one of its guns and add a light drone?

It could be made to work, and fit the Gallente theme
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#4 - 2012-02-04 20:58:32 UTC
It sounds like you're trying to shoehorn it in "because it's Gallente" while forgetting about the fact that it doesn't need one because it's role doesn't require one (the same way that the Nemesis has no drones because its role is such that it doesn't need drones).

And a lone ECM or webbing drone really doesn't do much of anything (and the only webbing drone is a heavy anyways) or compliment the Ares' role. Drones are outside of the tackle role which the Ares is made for, that's why there aren't any.
river Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-02-04 21:57:49 UTC
would be a useless addition
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#6 - 2012-02-04 22:05:31 UTC
It's a Rodan ship. They generally have little to no drone fielding abilities.

[/lolrp]
Masatoshi Hamada
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-02-04 23:31:58 UTC
It is some interceptor. When I am thinking of interceptors, what comes to mind is 'a fast ship that can hold down an opponent'. Which would means getting the most out of being able to scramble and webify a target. DPS, while is important, should be a second thought before tackle. Drones, therefore, seem like a pointless addition for a ship that is meaning to tackle and do some damage.
Duchess Starbuckington
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-02-05 11:47:06 UTC
It's already a superb tackle inty, why does it need buffing?
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-02-05 12:57:11 UTC
Duchess Starbuckington wrote:
It's already a superb tackle inty, why does it need buffing?

some people are never happy, even if you gave them the entire world and some.

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Duchess Starbuckington
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-02-05 13:08:43 UTC
"Ohh, one of the best tackle inties in the game... WAAAHHHHHH WHY DOESN'T IT HAVE A SINGLE WORTHLESS DRONE, WAAHHHHH!"
Drew Solaert
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-02-05 13:44:56 UTC
Pointless idea in a pointless thread.

Why would you even want one on an Ares?

I lied :o

Kris White
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-02-05 14:33:27 UTC
Verity Sovereign wrote:

An ECM drone would be nice.


Unlike
Silas Shaw
Coffee Hub
#13 - 2012-02-05 21:33:36 UTC
Verity Sovereign wrote:
An ECM drone would be nice.


They come in singles?
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-02-05 21:39:37 UTC
Duchess Starbuckington wrote:
"Ohh, one of the best tackle inties in the game... WAAAHHHHHH WHY DOESN'T IT HAVE A SINGLE WORTHLESS DRONE, WAAHHHHH!"



"THE SHIP NEEDS A SINGLE DRONE BECAUSE OF GALLENTE!"


Straight

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Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#15 - 2012-02-06 02:01:20 UTC
It's easy to say add something.

The problem is it would become unbalanced with other similar ships.

Next time you want to add something ask yourself what aspect you'd like to nerf to keep it balanced.

If you can't think of one that would be worth it; the question does not need to be asked.
Verity Sovereign
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-02-11 10:09:27 UTC
"The problem is it would become unbalanced with other similar ships.

Next time you want to add something ask yourself what aspect you'd like to nerf to keep it balanced."

I already said what: have it lose a turret or missile slot.

Why does it have a launcher, does the launcher really contribute to its role?
It seems it has a launcher because its Rodan.
So why not; it has a drone because its Gallente?

Lots of ships have a bonus because of a theme rather than a role.
Why does it have a hybrid bonus instead of projectile bonus? its not for its role, its for its racial theme.
Same goes for the Abaddon and an armor bonus instead of shield bonus (if its role is brick with DPS, a shield bonus and slot layout like the rohk would serve the role better, drop heat sinks in the lows, tank in the mids).

So lets not pretend that "theme" doesn't affect ship bonuses and layout.

Furthermore, as to its role: it is a tackler, it has range bonuses to its tackle.

Being able to put some DPS out is nice too.
But you don't want to use blasters in combination with ranged tackle....
A drone on the other hand can apply DPS to your target, while you still orbit at close to your maximum tackle range.
I do think a drone would complement its role as a ranged tackler.
So IMO they should drop a turret/missile, and add a drone.

But of course, most people on here just like to mock those who propose a change to the status quo (as if EVE devs got their ship designs perfect)
Arnold Blackthorne
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-02-11 10:53:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Arnold Blackthorne
Hurm why do you even want drones in the first place for a tackler inty?
If you want DPS then they already have Taranis.
If you want frigates with lots of drones plus DPS why not go we assault frigate like ishkur instead.
The options are already there for you instead of making changes to these ship.

As you stated earlier yourself you just managed to train for interceptors, have you actually fly one in a tackler role yet and actually experience the need of drones while flying an Ares or this just merely something that you think must have without actually flying the ship yet.
Duchess Starbuckington
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-02-11 18:31:38 UTC
Quote:
But you don't want to use blasters in combination with ranged tackle....

Umm, yes you do: to shoot down enemy drones. Same reason the rocket launcher is there.

Quote:
But of course, most people on here just like to mock those who propose a change to the status quo (as if EVE devs got their ship designs perfect)

Nope, just changes to the status quo justified by: "it should have a drone because GALLENTE!!!!!1!1!1" rather than, you know, any good reason.

The Ares is an amazing interceptor, and works just fine as it is. No need to fix what isn't broken.