EVE General Discussion

It seems that in my observations on this forum, there is a pretty continuous theme of players complaining that there are too many high-sec players who avoid null-sec like the plague, and people consistently attempt to diagnose the problem.

Well, here's one to contribute.

The main reason why I, personally, never venture out into nullsec past my local lowsec systems is due to the fact that I know, for a fact, that I will die at the first gate or if not the first, the first chokepoint gate.. We all know this is true 99% of the time, unless you manage to go through close to downtime hours or catch them on a bathroom break.

Why is the bubble invincible? Why is there no way to counter it? There are stabs to counter warp scram, but none for bubbles? Wouldn't it make sense to introduce a module that acted as a bubble negater for non-T3 ships?

Couple ideas; it should take up a high slot, instead of a low. Fitting one should gimp your ship's fitting, rendering it practically impossible to tank. It should take up quite a bit of resources. Replace Deep Space Transorts +2 Warp Strength bonus with a -75% reduction in power usage for warp bubble nullifiers.

I guarantee you that if the gate camp bubble 99% success issue were fixed with a module and/or ship to counter it, we'd see a hell of a lot more ships and POS's there for you people to scan down.

Thoughts?

Utter bollocks.

*yawn*

Ehm, not true. Gates are not camped as often as you think.

Personally, I'd love to wander nullsec, but I have no interest in joining Massive Alliance X or Z where I get to know a whopping three people out 500 and am permanently that-guy-I-see-sometimes-but-don't-really-remember.

TIL

OP uses zero tactics or even logic when trying to accomplish his goal, then blames everything but himself for his failure.

Plenty of people go to null sec and solo or small gang every single day. If you have met with failure in your attempts to do this, it is because you have neglected to use the available game mechanics and resources to your advantage. This is a competitive multiplayer game. If others are organizing, planing, and flying better than you, then they are going to win.

Please do not run around screaming that the game is broken because you are bad at it.

I dunno, I took a 4 day old trial account player and brought him via wormhole to our deployment center
dude didn't even know how to fly in ways other then set destination > CTRL-S, and he did better then that.

there are several ways of circumventing warp bubbles through pilot skill, ships that ignore bubbles, and avoiding systems that have bubbles altogether. If you use your imagination and put the work in, that is.

Someone seems not to have discovered cloaks.... Seriously a covops ship has a very good chance of getting through most bubble camps unscathed, even with a slowboat t1 cloak it's still perfectly possible altho ofc somewhat riskier as you trundle away. Best of all is (as so often) to bring a friend (or an alt will work just as well in this case) and have them scout for you in a covops hull, with a scout ahead you should have few problems rolling about much of nullsec for the hell of it/some casual ratting.

Gates aren't even as super camped as you suggest, not so very long ago a flew my pod out of null (after a hilariously silly suicide manouvere) and saw 3 people on one gate, no bubble, and nobody else on several jumps thru null then low untill a lone camper on the gate from losec-hisec, yes there's times you might land in the middle of dozens of people sat camping a gate, but tbh those tend to be the exception rather than the rule.

All you have to do is play smart. Thats all it takes. You don't have to change the game.

I'll requote something I was told over a voice comm server, playing a game not so different from what we're playing here.

The person said "Guys, I still get plenty of kills. So does that guy, and that guy, and that guy over there too. So maybe, the problem here isn't the game....."

I don't join null sec corps and alliances anymore. Why? Constant 23/7 CTA's with little to no regard for the needs of the individuals. Sorry, I can't spend THAT much time every day flying in mandatory fleets with little to no reward from it. I can't afford to go fight everytime a CTA is called, I need to do my carebear thing to replenish isk reserves.

Too many corps and alliances living in nullsec are too demanding. I found many that advertise themselves as an industry and/or mining corp, but every time I join it turns out all industry, mining and ratting activities are indefinitely suspended until further notice. Anyone caught engaging in said activities while they're suspended will be KOS.

That's not what I signed up for, but it keeps happening EVERY TIME I join a nullsec corp/alliance. Now i've heard outposts may become destructible, the contents within forfeit.

Ha ha no. Screw that. I'm done with nullsec.

My thoughts is that sadly new players land in Rookie chat, where they are brainwashed into mining.

They also land in hi sec where 80M SP losers brainwash them into the OH SO IMPOSSIBLE risks of putting their head past the door.

This is a mechanism known as adverse selection, where bads and losers keep accumulating in hi sec and teach the newcomers how to become bad and lose.