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Make Market Trading the opposite of what it currently is....

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Miss Whippy
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-02-02 21:40:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Miss Whippy
..Which is basically the most dullest and ridiculous click-fests ever!

Since a completely new UI seems to be out of the question - even though I'd much prefer this option, done with the world's expert on UI's maybe. I'd like to ask can you at least PLEASE take a look at how badly the market system is. It is completely unintuative, the navigation is diabolical, and it is possibly one of the most time-consuming activities.

A new market system would actually encourage more people to do it, and we'd have a much more in-depth economy. Please count the number of different windows you need to go through and the amount of typing you need to JUST to check a market price and adjust your own price accordingly. It is SOUL DESTROYING! Please also note that you have to re-scroll down tabs every time you tab away and back again, NOT EVEN INTERNET EXPLORER STILL DOES THIS! Please note the way the general lack of being able to stack various filters in the market details view, or in fact distinguishing which current filters are in operation. THIS ISN'T THE DARK AGES!

Please can you just at least start from scratch with the market windows? Here's a few possible ideas:

1 - HIGHLIGHT our own orders in the market view.
2 - Allow us to modify our orders FROM the market view.
3 - Impliment quick ways to adjust numbers - perhaps drop down menu for numbers being edited? Or maybe a way to scroll through numbers quickly with mouse wheel?
4 - Get this all in ONE WINDOW rather than several.
5 - Show us which orders have been modified recently, and which have not! A combination of adding a 'LAST MODIFIED' column and HIGHLIGHTING orders a different colour depending on if they were modified recently or not.
6 - Make a DROPDOWN MENU with variable CHILD MENUS in the left column for the various item catagories, rather then simply LISTING EVERYTHING!
7 - Reduce scrolling across the board!
8 - Reduce the clickfest across the board.
9 - MAKE IT NOT OBSCENELY DULL AND TIME-CONSUMING!

That is all, thank you.

EDIT:
10 - Show realtime changes in market prices - Maybe even make allowing to do this a skill.
11 - Add shares to the market.
12 - Give us a live market ticker, that would be cool.

[URL="https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=82348"]UI Iteration isn't enough, we need to start from scratch[/URL]

Daeva Teresa
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-02-03 02:26:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Daeva Teresa
Oh please yes! But:
11 - not going to hapen. Im not exactly sure how shares works now (im not in this kind of a bussines), may work in contracts but deffinitely not in market.

CCP really please dont use Upgraded, Limited, Experimental and Prototype in item names. It sounds like the item is actually worse than basic meta 1 item. Use Calibrated, Enhanced, Optimized and Upgraded. Its really easy to understand that the item is better than meta 1 and its also in alphabetic order.

Miss Whippy
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-02-03 19:34:18 UTC
You see CCP, people find market trading so boring that only a single person is attracted to a thread about it!

[URL="https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=82348"]UI Iteration isn't enough, we need to start from scratch[/URL]

kla samon
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-02-04 09:39:17 UTC  |  Edited by: kla samon
I would also add to your list the ability to cancel multiple orders at once.

It's ridiculous to have to go through and cancel hundreds of orders individually. Let us highlight all the orders we want to cancel and then right click cancel them all at once please.
Akrasjel Lanate
Lanate Industries
#5 - 2012-02-04 13:21:47 UTC
Miss Whippy wrote:
..Which is basically the most dullest and ridiculous click-fests ever!

Since a completely new UI seems to be out of the question - even though I'd much prefer this option, done with the world's expert on UI's maybe. I'd like to ask can you at least PLEASE take a look at how badly the market system is. It is completely unintuative, the navigation is diabolical, and it is possibly one of the most time-consuming activities.

A new market system would actually encourage more people to do it, and we'd have a much more in-depth economy. Please count the number of different windows you need to go through and the amount of typing you need to JUST to check a market price and adjust your own price accordingly. It is SOUL DESTROYING! Please also note that you have to re-scroll down tabs every time you tab away and back again, NOT EVEN INTERNET EXPLORER STILL DOES THIS! Please note the way the general lack of being able to stack various filters in the market details view, or in fact distinguishing which current filters are in operation. THIS ISN'T THE DARK AGES!

Please can you just at least start from scratch with the market windows? Here's a few possible ideas:

1 - HIGHLIGHT our own orders in the market view.
2 - Allow us to modify our orders FROM the market view.
3 - Impliment quick ways to adjust numbers - perhaps drop down menu for numbers being edited? Or maybe a way to scroll through numbers quickly with mouse wheel?
4 - Get this all in ONE WINDOW rather than several.
5 - Show us which orders have been modified recently, and which have not! A combination of adding a 'LAST MODIFIED' column and HIGHLIGHTING orders a different colour depending on if they were modified recently or not.
6 - Make a DROPDOWN MENU with variable CHILD MENUS in the left column for the various item catagories, rather then simply LISTING EVERYTHING!
7 - Reduce scrolling across the board!
8 - Reduce the clickfest across the board.
9 - MAKE IT NOT OBSCENELY DULL AND TIME-CONSUMING!

That is all, thank you.

EDIT:
10 - Show realtime changes in market prices - Maybe even make allowing to do this a skill.
11 - Add shares to the market.
12 - Give us a live market ticker, that would be cool.


Not fault you are lazy...

No

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude

Miss Whippy
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-02-05 12:31:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Miss Whippy
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:

Not fault you are lazy...

No


Says the idiot who can't even be bothered to write a coherent sentence.

It's got nothing to do with being lazy. It has everything to do with the UI being so needlessly poor and unecessarily time consuming. Moronss like you might not have a problem with having your time wasted, but then again I imagine you struggle to fill the hours anyway. You'd have to be some kind of ****** to not want a far more efficient UI.

[URL="https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=82348"]UI Iteration isn't enough, we need to start from scratch[/URL]

Miss Whippy
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-02-08 21:45:55 UTC
kla samon wrote:
I would also add to your list the ability to cancel multiple orders at once.

It's ridiculous to have to go through and cancel hundreds of orders individually. Let us highlight all the orders we want to cancel and then right click cancel them all at once please.


I'm all for this too. There's SO many ways the UI could be improved, this is my main argument for starting from scratch.

[URL="https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=82348"]UI Iteration isn't enough, we need to start from scratch[/URL]