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Idears for a Flagship in high/lowsec warfare
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Tjemjak
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#1 - 2012-02-04 06:32:39 UTC
Hey,

i would like to collect some ideas on a Flagship for high/lowsec warfare with 5-10 man fleets.

Everything, hull, fitting and how the support fleet should look like can be a matter of discussion.

Overall budget is 5-6 bil which should also cover cost for implants if suggested.

Thx,

TJ
Alara IonStorm
#2 - 2012-02-04 06:41:14 UTC
Umm Flagship is not a term we use... for anything really.

Do you mean a Command Ship fitting Gang Links or a Capital Ship like a Carrier or just a survivable heavy tanked ship that is hard to remove from the field.

It would also help to know the general make up of the gang, is it all Battleships, or Shield Battlecruisers, or HAC's or Frigs or a mixed fleet. Does your Gang plan to Camp or does it need Mobility, is it close range long range.

Also we don't really know what you can fly.
Tjemjak
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#3 - 2012-02-04 06:48:57 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Umm Flagship is not a term we use... for anything really.

Do you mean a Command Ship fitting Gang Links or a Capital Ship like a Carrier or just a survivable heavy tanked ship that is hard to remove from the field.

It would also help to know the general make up of the gang, is it all Battleships, or Shield Battlecruisers, or HAC's or Frigs or a mixed fleet. Does your Gang plan to Camp or does it need Mobility, is it close range long range.

Also we don't really know what you can fly.



term was used in AT e.g. and should be well known.

yea i agree. command ship is such different.
not carrier, since its for low and high sec warfare.
I dont want to give any restrictions really since fitting can be changed, and the fleet around it aswell ofc.
However, lts say close range.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#4 - 2012-02-04 06:52:50 UTC
This was the flagship of the Parsec Flux fleet for a long time:


[Basilisk, Solo Basilisk]
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I

10MN Afterburner II
Pith B-Type Large Shield Booster
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Cap Recharger II

Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Improved Cloaking Device II

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II


Hornet EC-300 x5


-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Alara IonStorm
#5 - 2012-02-04 07:15:32 UTC
Tjemjak wrote:

term was used in AT e.g. and should be well known.

However, lts say close range.

So according to massively it just means faction fit Battleship in Tourney Speak. What?

If I were to take my pic I would say go with a Slaved or LG Slaved Vindicator then for a close range fleet with a Faction Web and Faction Dmg Mods.

That should be within your Budget.
Tjemjak
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#6 - 2012-02-04 07:34:37 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Tjemjak wrote:

term was used in AT e.g. and should be well known.

However, lts say close range.

So according to massively it just means faction fit Battleship in Tourney Speak. What?

If I were to take my pic I would say go with a Slaved or LG Slaved Vindicator then for a close range fleet with a Faction Web and Faction Dmg Mods.

That should be within your Budget.


yea, nice call. that was what i did come up with.

what about bhaalgorn?
Jude Lloyd
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-02-04 08:18:58 UTC
Opux Luxury Yacht should do the trick.

I'm back!
Danny John-Peter
Blue Canary
Watch This
#8 - 2012-02-04 09:14:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Danny John-Peter
Damnation or Vulture depending on your fleet comp. Or maybe a Claymore, all can fit stupid tanks, the Claymore has the worst buffer sadly due to loosing out on the resist bonus, but if you need a useful Flagship there the way to go IMO. Slaved vindi if you just want a big DPS bringing brick but CS are more beneficial assuming a gang of around 10+ in size. And certainly not some ******** Basi that wants to be a Scimitar.

Edit; loving the EM resist on the Basi by the way, I'm sure your glad EM ammo isn't widely used...
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#9 - 2012-02-04 09:26:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Liang Nuren
That Basi saw way more fights than your character has total kills. :)

-Liang

Ed: For that matter, I got more kills last month than you have lifetime kills. Lol

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Danny John-Peter
Blue Canary
Watch This
#10 - 2012-02-04 09:40:42 UTC
That may well be the case. Still don't see the point, it's not gonna tank much even assuming you manage perfect range control, which in the days of 100k web/point is difficult the thing wil die horribly to anything that has greater range than your shield reps which is if i remember, about 80k or less.

Feel free to enlighten me to the point of it.
Wyte Ragnarok
#11 - 2012-02-04 09:43:08 UTC
Tjemjak wrote:

term was used in AT e.g. and should be well known.


Low sec =/= Alliance Tournament.

I hope your 6 billion isk backside gets hot dropped by PL.

Liang Nuren wrote:
Ed: For that matter, I got more kills last month than you have lifetime kills. Lol

Yes. But you realise you're talking to CVA. I mean really... It's CVA.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#12 - 2012-02-04 09:44:08 UTC
Wyte Ragnarok wrote:
Yes. But you realise you're talking to CVA. I mean really... It's CVA.


P

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Danny John-Peter
Blue Canary
Watch This
#13 - 2012-02-04 09:47:48 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Wyte Ragnarok wrote:
Yes. But you realise you're talking to CVA. I mean really... It's CVA.


P


Sorry I forgot blobbing horribly fit Drakes and killing solo Rifters with 2 T2 frigs is "leet Pvp", if you enliten me to the purpose of the Basi I will happily accept it as read.
Wyte Ragnarok
#14 - 2012-02-04 09:54:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Wyte Ragnarok
Oh I wasn't referring to the Basi. More the fact that Liang gets more kills in a month than you do in a lifetime.

Where did I mention anything about blobs?

Although. Now you mention it. You have a point.
Danny John-Peter
Blue Canary
Watch This
#15 - 2012-02-04 09:59:13 UTC
Wyte Ragnarok wrote:
Oh I wasn't referring to the Basi. More the fact that Liang gets more kills in a month than you do in a lifetime.

Where did I mention anything about blobs?

Although. Now you mention it. You have a point.


Meh, don't get a whole lot of play time, and yes we blob things, primarily because we fight blobs of equal or larger size, way the world works. I Genuinely don't care about all this KB crap, just don't really see the point in the Basi its an honest question.

Oh and I'd like to see how long it takes you to solo a TCU :P
I Legionnaire
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-02-04 10:12:55 UTC
Bhaalgorn backed up by a cap-feeding Guardian.
Sicex
#17 - 2012-02-04 10:18:53 UTC
Wouldn't it be cool if we had flagships though? Not super weapon-ships but truly ornate or indomitable ships representing a racial supremacy. The titans are a weapon.. a null-sec weapon at that, but what if we had parade style weapons platforms that could traverse all space?

To add further balance, make them PVP Tournament prizes or some other sort of limited release mechanism... non-buildable but not invisible. Maybe the racial Navy rebuilds them for free when lost?...

Flagships, mang....
Tjemjak
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#18 - 2012-02-04 10:21:05 UTC
Wyte Ragnarok - just week.
Wyte Ragnarok
#19 - 2012-02-04 10:26:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Wyte Ragnarok
Tjemjak wrote:
Wyte Ragnarok - just week.

One week or two?

Edit: On a more serious note though. Just grab a ship. Why spend 6 bill on something you'll take into low sec? If you're looking for a high sec flagship for your war parade then fine. A Slaved Vindicator or Slaved Damnation would be best. Either way, Slave it and get a couple of Guardian pilots to back you up. It would be awesome. I confess.
madsamo
Outer Haven Inc
#20 - 2012-02-04 13:12:46 UTC
Heavy Interdictor or command ships can both fit ridiculous tanks and do some decent dps. You WILL be primairied with either one though
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