Out of Pod Experience

OMG! I'm practically yelling this out at my computer. I am CONSTANTLY seeing people saying "CCP is stupid" for for only releasing it on the PS3. It's been stated OVER and OVER and OVEEERRRRR again WHY it is on PS3!

Let's make this the final word as of today, 01/03/2012, why this is so. Reddit, Massively, Wired, you name it... bitchslap this thread across their faces, ok?

"It's stupid that they decided not to put it on xbox 360"
WRONG. They cannot put it on xbox at the moment, and it wasn't a decision to not put it on the network. If they could work out a protocol that would allow it, MSFT would have to retain control of the network, no communication between eve's servers and the one on live. This innovation could not occur. SONY was a sweetheart in this respect, it's open to the PC servers. Besides, if they released it on both, you'd be bitching about the xbox live fee when the ps3 is free. Also, there's a difference in hardware. ONE UNIVERSE.

"They failed by not putting it on PC, HUGE mistake"
When was the last time you played an FPS on the PC? Remember a problem with the older titles? BOTTING! Eventually, it's going to happen, and it any fix will always be too late. The playing field is not level whatsoever in the FPS sector, unless they decide to make Dust run off of the same engine half life 2 uses, or forbid I mention this, the original UNREAL engine. YES, a keyboard and mouse are superior to a PS3 joystick, but it will be much more manageable to reign in hacking on a console. There is too much at stake for this to be on a PC. Could it really be fair to have it on ps3 and PC, or is this supposed to be a strictly PC game?

And another note on the PC complaints. Have you seen how incredibly twitchy and difficult it can be to play a game like counter strike? It's horrendous! Only the top gamers have a chance, there's usually not a lot of strategy. You just whip around with the most powerful sniper rifle you have and instantly kill everything you see. You cannot retain players with that game as it's about brain hard wiring and the amount of mountain dew you've taken. Conscious strategy and tactics, THAT is what makes a great game. Imagine EVE with nothing but stealthbombers, modified to run Minmattar battleship artillery with 2000% bonus to tracking, scan resolution of 7000mm, and everyone has a tank of just 500 hp. THAT is what PC first person shooters are like.

I'm sure there are more complaints, add some more if you want. ***** at me if you want but keep in mind the legacy you'll be leaving.

It's still stupid.



You forgot the most important reason, the PS3 fanboys will defend the PS3 to their death. Thank you for giving us an example of this.

Ok, I'll bite if not trolling.



Yesterday. And many times recently. I tend to play all my FPS's on PC, as console FPS's are generally pretty poor and mechanics are dumbed down for the controllers both lack of buttons and lack of accuracy.

Infact, FPS games seem to generally dominate the PC charts once MMO's are take out of the equation.

As for hacking, no, look at COD:MW2, hacking was/is RAMPANT on the console versions. MW3 had people using aimbots on release day.



I'm not awesome at FPS games, acceptable yes, not awesome and I generally have no problems playing on public or even clan servers. Those ubermensch you seem to think are every FPS player on PC are actually very few and far between.

As for your comments on CS being twitchy, I can only assume you''ve got extremely slow reactions and poor hand-eye coordination, CS isn't really twitchy. Not compared to original UT's Instagib mode anyway *swoons* or games like Q3. I think the term you're looking for here is "fluid". Movement is much easier with a keyboard and mouse.


Also, re, not retaining players. TF2 would like to have a word with you.

Basically, your entire argument is totally subjective (and arguably false) about why it's not on the PC, and you mearly repeat the information CCP has given out as to why it's only on the PS3 (MS not playing ball).

Tbh, you've also overlooked the MT system which Dust is running on. It's very much a PC orientated system (see MMO's and TF2 for examples).

Can you not give such an empashioned speech to the choir and help us who don't understand what you said ?

I own a PS3 , play Resident Evil, the other spastic kill enemies and eat soul for energy game and having 1/2 a brain i detest the twitch games. I'm not 11 years old and wired on redbull.

you seemed to have a point but i couldn't get it

Because CCP is really bad at negotiating.

/Protip: CCP is also really bad at providing deliverables that meet subscriber expectations.

jesus this is such a fail thread its not even funny

I can fully understand why it isn't on the Xbox. No argument from me there.

I would argue that it is a bad idea to limit it to the PS3, but I'm biased against Sony...

Because they think they know best and if people don't use their preferred medium of gaming, they're window licking morons. It's pride at it's finest, that's all.

Personally, I like my PS3...it's not perfect, but I have an original model (60gb) and it has yet to fail me in any way. The controller fits perfectly in my hand and I don't have to ever look down to check and see what button I am hitting (not so much with XBox, and don't get me started on the N64). I can't tell you how many times I gotta check the keyboard on PC games. Yeah, SONY can get very confused at times, but for the most part, I am content with this platform. And short of that big network debacle last year, they really haven't messed up too bad.

My problem starts when fanboys (for lack of a better term at the moment) try to tell me what I should play, what is cool and what is kiddie and all that. My 7 year old can use a computer, and navigate to his favorite sites with little input from me. Does that make it kiddie? And XBoxers generally scream 'Halo! Halo!' when you even try to point out any unfavorable points of that system. That, to me, smacks of rampant insecurity and immaturity. What makes me shake my head is how the 360 came out a full year before the PS3, and instead of wowing people with it, they sat on their laurels and pumped out mediocre titles. I worked at a game shop right after it came out, and trust me, people were not clamoring for that console or the games. But PS2 games still sold like hotcakes during that time. Add to that the RRoD...it's not the ring itself that bothers me, it's how MS lied about how widespread it was.

I like PCs, but I will never again play a FPS on one ever. That's just not what a PC is for. A PC should capture a game that is both massive and graphically beautiful. FPSs waste that. Yeah, they might be pretty, but there isn't a whole lot to an FPS really. Just repetition. That and the fact that PC games are generally pretty buggy on release, and tend to stay that way for awhile, so long as the bugs are not game breaking. FPSs on consoles generally get patched in quick order, and while you can hack them, bad things eventually happen when you do. My buddy's son has a friend that got reset and banned for a few weeks for boosting, and from what I have recently heard, MW2 is actually playable again because they did some major house cleaning over there.

I'm really sorry that Dust514 isn't going to be on every medium...I know what it's like. Fable. Only on XBox. Yeah, I know what it feels like. But I'm not going to sit here and disparage the ones that do get it. I'm just going to move on. That's one of your two choices. Suck it up and buy a PS3, or move on. Otherwise, your emorage just betrays your ability to handle not getting what you want and throwing a big hissy fit. That's what my 7 yr old does when he doesn't get what he wants. And every time he does that, I tell him to man up and quit crying like a little girl.

He's actually learning to handle disappointment and growing up because of it. If only more people followed his example.

Yesterday, it was Battlefield 3 and I still love taking out those elitest pilots that I've spent hating since Battlefield Vietnam (the BF1942 planes weren't that bad)

Also Skyrim but that game is tedious at best, also the bugs drive me nuts. I got off my horse and promptly lost it, after a long time of running around looking for it I stopped and looked up. My horse was standing there floating about 30 ft above my head. The guy at the stable never told me my horse had antigravity, would've saved a lot time with navigating

Its a mistake because .

Dust is a micro transaction based game its main source of profit will be the player base spending money on in game virtual items.

Dust is expensive . they have only one resource pool to drain revenue from . that being ps3 owners willing to invest their cash into dust.

Argue how ever much you want, but limiting your user base in a micro transaction based game is not a good idea.

Taking CCP at its face value dust is an experiment . so be it . as an experiment there are going to be those who question the decisions used in this experiment . Especially when on of the reasons giving for the experiment ,is to maximize the exposure of eve to a unknowing player base that such a awesome universe exists. (and they are going to do it using only a small subsection of their target audience !!)

Therefore bad idea.


As much as i would like to see dust succeed i think it being limited to PS3 is shooting its self in the foot . However, I understand that one can not always do everything and dust on PS3 and PC would be 3x as expensive ( due to increased art ,code and logistics cost. ) Thus the ps3 only path may have been the sanest decision made in the face of some very wild ideas.

Hopefully dust will be a great success and a game changer its theory has the potential. Whether it performs in execution is something we will see later this year.