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All Trek tech is purely for story reasons. Arguing over whether Star Trek would be Star Wars is silly because they are two universes built around telling two completely different types of stories, and their technology is designed to fit within the story.

That said, I think the simple fact that the Empire would win in a galaxy-on-galaxy fight. Nevermind all these invented tech specs, you're talking about an empire built from a Republic that ruled a galaxy for millenia. Any disadvantages they might initially have would be overcome quickly as engineers dissected wrecks of Star Trek ships. Don't forget just how fast things changed during WW2; the technological race was just as important as the fighting.

And yet, it only took one single small spacecraft to completely destroy the Empire base, twice.

And the second time it completely dismantled the Empire with one shot.

hmmm...

You might be overestimating the willingness of the 'rest of the galaxy' to assist the Empire, tyranical rule or not. Regular denizens in SW are known to drag their feet or run when the overlords demand work or easement. Empire has cool uniforms but they are not very well liked:) I seem to recall much galactic rejoicing and sing-along-around-campfire after the Empire's defeat.

The federation at least has allies who will commit real warships to come to their aid and fight to the death if they are threatened. And if Janeway gets hurt in battle with the Empire, Q will turn the Sith into daffodils out of spite and /insta-kill the entire Empire fleet in their moorings, but I hate Q as a cheap 'I win' story device ugh. . . nonetheless canon.

Also maybe the Zerg

So, if the Borg can adapt to any weapon, why do we see them killed with knives? Or are we supposed to believe that those kills are the first time the Borg have ever encountered "stab them to death"?

Also, not every universe has "frequencies" for everything. There's no reason to believe that Star Wars shields even HAVE a frequency to figure out and exploit.



Or a caveman with a sharpened stick.

(Or, for the ultimate trump card, the Culture. The "war" would be over faster than I can type this sentence.)

Their weakness is stuffed animals wielding rocks and sticks

They miss calculated the importance of such weapons at a vital moment and it cost them.

They did but decided Multi Regenerative Phasers would be less likely to be adapted too.

I don't see how this is much of a problem as the Borg do not invade Planets but hammer their defenses into nothing and beam up the population unarmed for Assimilation then use them to construct and Pilot more Warships. They really don't need those kinds of defenses.

Sure but I don't see what you are getting at.

Not really.

Species 8472 Bio Tech is light years ahead of Borg Technology. It is designed to be difficult to analyze, You saw the Vid where 9 tiny ships took apart a Planet, their Tech is just plain out that powerful. The trouble with adapting is that their Data is well protected from Scan both invasive and non invasive.

The Borg would have adapted eventually but whether they could in time or not is the only question. I mentioned them as one of the few Races that can go against them.

They are not invincible but they are very, very tough to fight against. They have their weaknesses but they have a powerful fleet and the ability adapt quick and that makes them pretty dangerous.

No but judging by the common use of most of Star Wars Tech they should have piles of Information to go over unlike the closed source of 8472 Tech.

Maybe they won't be able to adapt to everything but they will have all the information they need to come up with a strong defense pretty quick. Maybe it means Shields and Turbo Lasers are useless maybe it doesn't but anything they have that is way more advanced will be in Borg Hands in relatively short order to be exploited in every way possible.

In what areas of Technology do you think they are superior in.

You assume they have more Ships and equipment because they control a very large portion of their Galaxy but you do not know how many Star Systems they actually have a presence in or how large exact their Population is.

The Borg could very well be just as equipped Military wise.

You guys wanna argue plot holes and science in star trek in a thread VS star wars? star wars especially 3 of 6 movies has more plots holes and problems than all star trek combined ffs

Does ST have problems? yes, especially when it comes to the movies because they said "this is a movie, frack everything else" so not even the characters are the same, but whatever. ST is the most consistent universe of all sci fi I have ever come across with the amount of contant in said universe.

Oh and SW sucks and George Lucas is terrible at his job, not not that job where he makes billions selling fans ****** toys, the other job (making movies, writing, directing, screenplay and casting etc.)

Oh really? And how exactly do you know how complicated, say, a Star Wars hyperdrive is? Are you basing this claim entirely on the fact that the writers for Star Wars had enough talent to simply have technology function as a normal person uses it and not include endless streams of meaningless technobabble about how it "works"?



What else do you need? Star Wars has firepower many orders of magnitude higher, and the speed to overwhelm the Star Trek galaxy within a few days.



Let me put this in perspective:

Federation <<<< Borg <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< (continues on for a few pages) <<<<< Empire

This is like saying that the fleet of sailing ships can beat the carrier group because you gave them a single ship from the 1600s. The 1600s ship may be better than the 1500s ships, but it's still laughably outclassed compared to the modern fleet.



Err, no it is not.

A Borg starship is at least roughly comparable to a Federation starship, because we see Federation starships (or small fleets) successfully fighting and destroying them.

Since a Federation starship compares to a Star Wars ship in about the same way that a .22 rifle compares to a nuclear missile, the same is true for the Borg ship. The fact that it does slightly better than the Federation ship is entirely irrelevant when it's still outclassed by such a decisive margin.



Culture 101: awesome technological utopia that beats pretty much every universe. The average Culture warship is controlled by a godlike AI that simulates entire universes just to pass the time, fights entire fleet battles in microseconds (at many times the speed of light), and considers destroying a mere planet to be such an absurdly trivial level of firepower that it is insulted that anyone would make that comparison.

And of course besides being the ultimate trump card, they're excellent books.

Borg Ships move at a similar pace.


Disagree entirely.


One very large Federation Fleet managed to fight off one single Borg Ship in first Contact using specially weapons and they took heavy, heavy losses.


That margin is not as big as you think against Borg Weaponry. As well the sources behind the Empires Weapons estimates seem to be of dubious Cannon. Especially since what is often shown seems in Movies, Television and in Star wars Books contradicts the far out and dubious sources of what is a very bias site that is more interested in proving one side wrong then looking at all options.

I honestly can not stand sites like that who grasp at straws.