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[PROPOSAL] Support Tug-class Vessel

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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#61 - 2012-01-31 02:14:10 UTC
Another bump in support of the space truckers who help with the logistics side of warfare.

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Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
#62 - 2012-01-31 14:45:01 UTC
I generally like the principle. but if you are going to call the ship class a tug abandon the dedicated cargo hold suggestion.
give them exclusive access to three capital class tractor beams and have all four vessels fly in formation.

the towed vessels should be (1) empty of pod pilots (2) have all modules offline
so that if a pirate gang was to intercept they could board the vessels but would have a helluva time delay to get them started and a logistics problem to suss out about what to do with their original ship.
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#63 - 2012-01-31 19:14:23 UTC
Snowflake Tem wrote:
I generally like the principle. but if you are going to call the ship class a tug abandon the dedicated cargo hold suggestion.
give them exclusive access to three capital class tractor beams and have all four vessels fly in formation.

the towed vessels should be (1) empty of pod pilots (2) have all modules offline
so that if a pirate gang was to intercept they could board the vessels but would have a helluva time delay to get them started and a logistics problem to suss out about what to do with their original ship.


Since initial work it has been changed to Envoy-class. And the External towing of ships would be a mechanics nightmare. That, and it is just downright ridiculous.

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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#64 - 2012-02-03 01:56:20 UTC
Bumping for exposure.

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Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
#65 - 2012-02-03 09:32:09 UTC
Jack Carrigan wrote:

Since initial work it has been changed to Envoy-class. And the External towing of ships would be a mechanics nightmare. That, and it is just downright ridiculous.


Fair enough, I can understand you wanting the functionality sooner rather than later, but, they are going to have to work on formations as some point. When they do, it would be unbelievable not to see tractor towed ships. It is an ubiquitous sci-fi utility.

Tractor mods need some attention, there is a whole host of stuff that should be legal to tow that isnt.

I'm suggesting that this class of ship would benefit from the development of the formations mech, and an iteration of the tractor mechs.

What would be even better in my opinion is an open skeletal ship model that showed the contents of it's hull. But that would open up a whole different can of worms.
Dario Welling
Spaghetti Bolognese a la Maruni
#66 - 2012-02-03 11:17:10 UTC
+1 very good idea nothing to add
Lavayar
Haidamaky
UA Fleets
#67 - 2012-02-03 12:12:29 UTC
Supported.

Shingorash
Stellar Defense Services
#68 - 2012-02-03 13:25:06 UTC
Not a bad idea, not something I would use personally as I just sell all my stuff and move on so I dont have to move anything.

I see the use though for some people...
Zaxix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#69 - 2012-02-03 15:35:35 UTC
I'm always mystified by the suggestions for creating entire classes of ships simply to save money on rigs. All that coding, balancing, art resources, blueprints, construction calculations, etc. just because people don't want to strip rigs off their ships. Being able to carry 3 rigged battleships is the equivalent of carrying 1.5million or more m3, which far exceeds the capacity of any other ship in eve, including carriers. You can move 2 rigged battleships in a freighter using courier contracts. If the only purpose of the ship is to move rigged ships and all it CAN move are rigged ships, then its pointless. Just strip the rigs off the BS already.

Not supported.

Bokononist

 
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#70 - 2012-02-04 00:47:31 UTC
The idea behind it is not just to have it and fly it just because you can. The idea is to save money and further immersion and flesh out ship roles a little more, and to add another aspect to the game.

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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#71 - 2012-02-05 10:54:45 UTC
The backbone of any warfighting operation is timely logistical support. This would allow for additional vessels to be supplied to pilots in an expedient manner.

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Vasya Kosyakov
X-Exclusion-X
#72 - 2012-02-05 17:28:21 UTC
+1 For me, now bring me those ships BLACK FROG!
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#73 - 2012-02-05 20:40:22 UTC
The amount of feedback (mostly positive, and very little negative) is astounding. Let's keep this idea moving in a forward direction.

If you must make negative feedback, at least propose something that would be helpful as a tweak.

But then again, there hasn't been much in the terms of feedback that has been hollow and negative.

Let's get some CSM and Dev input on this. Keep the ideas and support flowing.

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Maikahn
Kahn Inc
#74 - 2012-02-05 21:22:44 UTC
I like this idea. Hauling ships around is a pain. Shuttling back 'n forth takes a good deal of time, time I rather spend shooting.
No slots, no ejection option. +1 from me.
Zanban
Lava Shark Productions
#75 - 2012-02-06 20:51:55 UTC
Still thank this is a great plan
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#76 - 2012-02-07 06:28:47 UTC
Zanban wrote:
Still thank this is a great plan


And I refuse to let this one quietly fade into obscurity.

Let's get some support and input folks!

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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#77 - 2012-02-08 03:03:59 UTC
Bump for exposure to hopefully draw some more love for the space truckers.

We need new ships!!

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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#78 - 2012-02-09 05:49:23 UTC
Bump of the day to get more exposure/support for the idea!

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Amaya Blaze
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2012-02-09 19:51:38 UTC
Great idea.

I also like the idea of small tug class vessels with remote agility and align speed or other such modules for getting big ships into and out of stations faster.

I would like to point out that the gank level of this ship needs to be somewhere about the 1.5 bil or so mark otherwise it will just be a large juicy target for any destroyer group. If you can carry around battleships in warp you need to be massively large and consequently very tough target just based on size alone. The ship in space also needs to dwarf all other ship models by a good margin because seriously, it should be big enough to look like it can swallow other ships.
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#80 - 2012-02-13 05:33:48 UTC
Can we get some more love for this idea? I think we can.

Is there a Dev or CSM member in the house?

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