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Is it worth to train Golem?
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Gurny Hallck
Perkone
Caldari State
#41 - 2012-02-02 19:48:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Gurny Hallck
Her Innocence Lost wrote:
Gurny Hallck wrote:

and again i will say the same thing all over, the difference between the golem and other marauder's isnt ground breaking like you make out, i do agree that tengu/faction bs's can be better for several ovbious reasons but at the same time they cannot salvage, again it depends what excatly the person wants to do, is he a eft warrior seeking every single bit more isk over another ship? is he just relaxing making some cash here and there? presuming that everyone on here wants the "best" ship for the job is totally stupid because if that was the case all we would have in this game is a hanful of ships, you are making out the golem is massively worse over the other ships and this just is not the case, owning 3 of the 4 marauders i think i know better then so called alt trying to look cool and intelligent on ze forums.

ur turn


An EFT warrior, such as yourself, would see the list dps of the golem and be utterly impressed. Probably to the point of ignoring the obvious flaws that have been pointed out here. No, they don't add up to making the ship unuseable, but it certainly isn't a negligible diffirence when you're talking about the sheer number of better alternatives.

I'm glad you realize a posting alt has made you look less intelligent on the forums.


In this post more trolling no actual figures, as for me being an eft warrior i think it is clearly you who is taking the whole figures to the head, like i said not a huge difference between the 4, certainly not enough to pick one over the other just because of said difference, but hey here's an idea, lets remove all the ships that are not equal to there same catagory, myrm, harby etc.

Thing you dont get is your logic, it's flawed in more then one way. as for making me look less intelligent, laughable, all you brought to this thread is, hybrid buff, winmatar, paladin > golem cuz you said so and cuz it's what eft says.

Funny thing is, you probobly never set foot in one of the marauders. love me some troll's
Now go get the last word in because we both know it has to happen.

To get back on topic: "I see not so much difference in damage from Raven. Only 15 dps or something with T2 cruise missiles.
Maybe I missed something?"
the difference is huge.
Her Innocence Lost
Doomheim
#42 - 2012-02-02 20:03:25 UTC
Yep, eft warrior'd all that up. Not like the rest of the thread came up with the exact same conclusions.

If the OP wants to fly what he likes, I don't think he'd be here asking questions. I'll leave you to flying your special snowflake there cheif. You don't have to care that it is the worst marauder, but i'll be damned if I won't be laught at you for trying to sell it as an awsome ship that people simply slight because they've never flown it.

Clearly you've either never flown much else, or you want some other hapless newb to repeat your mistakes. Either way, you've lost this arguemnt, no troll.
Outz Xacto
Echelon Munitions
#43 - 2012-02-03 01:09:35 UTC
Mission completion times with proper fits/flying skills as I'm genuinely interested in seeing the differences between the two.

Perhaps we should really discuss why maruaders are far better suited for other tasks that many faction ships/normal BS's simply dont perform.

In otherwords, using a maruader for L4 missions is not where it was designed to excel so stop with this nonsense about which ones do them better, or Ill start asking if I should use a hams or hmls on my tengu because eft says one is better than the other.
OfBalance
Caldari State
#44 - 2012-02-03 01:46:39 UTC
Wow, these threads always turn into a slap-fight. I'm going to skip over the pissing contest there as I think the good points were already made.

Outz Xacto wrote:

Perhaps we should really discuss why maruaders are far better suited for other tasks that many faction ships/normal BS's simply dont perform.

In otherwords, using a maruader for L4 missions is not where it was designed to excel so stop with this nonsense about which ones do them better, or Ill start asking if I should use a hams or hmls on my tengu because eft says one is better than the other.


Well, this is more or less the issue that people fight about. Some people place a high value on salvaging while they mission and they assume because a marauder is unique in being able to do this, they are inherently superior regardless of performance difference. Other people suggest that either salvage isn't worth it or that the noctis has eclipsed any need to salvage on the go as an inefficient relic of a bygone era.

Regardless of where you sit on that particular issue, it has been proven time and again that no marauder matches the tengu or various faction battleships for sheer completion speed of missions. So if you are of the camp that doesn't bother to salvage missions, the answer has been given. If you are in the other camp, or perhaps want to do the math for yourself calculating averages of salvage prices, time expenditures, and average LP per hour; then the answer is not so clear.

Personally, I don't mission much anymore, but the tengu appeals to my baser lazy instincts.
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