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New computer parts needed

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NightmareX
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2012-02-02 20:08:29 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Hello.

As my title is saying, i need some new computer parts. And the reason for that is because the computer have decided to kill it self.

Not really sure on why the computer is not working, but it's something with the RAM pieces, motherboard or the PSU. I wont go so much into details on what the problem is, but the whole problem is that the computer wont start up no matter what i do.

So i have decided to throw out the old Motherboard, CPU, CPU-cooler, RAM and the GPU for new parts for those things. But before i can do that, then i have to sell my lovely MacBook Air laptop.

My current setup is this.

Motherboard: Asus M4A79 Deluxe.
CPU: AMD Athlon II 7850 Black Edition.
CPU-cooler: Thermaltake Big Typhoon.
RAM: 2 x Corsair 2GB DDR2 XMS2 PC6400 CL5.
GPU: Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 1GB.

In other words, it's kinda weak and old setup today. So my computer really needs and upgrade anyways.

So the new parts i'm gonna get is this.

Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth P67.
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K.
CPU-cooler: Corsair A70.
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB).
GPU: Asus GeForce GTX 560 TI DCII TOP 1 GB.

Now i know that GPU is pretty good. But i also know that the Asus Radeon HD 6950 DCII 1 GB card is pretty nice to. Those 2 cards are about the same in performance in games.

But the thing that keeps me on the GeForce 560 TI DCII TOP card is the CUDA cores. I use Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 and Adobe After Effects CS5 from time to time where i'm rendering movies and such. So in my case i think the GeForce card will be better for me that way, since i can take advantages of the CUDA cores in Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 and Adobe After Effects CS5.

My question though, is what card would you go for in this case?

If you would go for the Radeon card, then i would like to hear some good reasons behind it, and it will be the same other way.

The GeForce card is also a little cheaper than the Radeon card.

And how much better performance in percent in games do you think i will get from the current setup to the new one?

Hope to get some answers from someone that knows alot about computers. I know alot about computers already, but i just want to hear what others says about my plan.

Greetings from NightmareX.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

NightmareX
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2012-02-02 20:18:22 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
I'm fixing the topic right now since it wont allow me to post the text because of this crappy BBcode thingie Sad

So hold on while i figure out what's wrong.

EDIT: Posting links seems to be totally broken for some pages.

EDIT 2: I fixed the problem. The whole problem was in this line of text: And how much better performance in % in games do you think i will get from the current setup to the new one?

When i removed the % in that line and wrote down percent instead, then it worked.

So wow, CCP, you REALLY need to fix your forum.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

NightmareX
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2012-02-02 21:45:30 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Now my topic is working like it should.

So now we can discuss Big smile

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Tiven loves Tansien
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-02-02 21:52:57 UTC
I don't care if Monday's blue
Tuesday's gray and Wednesday too
Thursday I don't care about you
It's Friday, I'm in love

Monday you can fall apart
Tuesday, Wednesday break my heart
Oh, Thursday doesn't even start
It's Friday I'm in love

Saturday, wait
And Sunday always comes too late
But Friday, never hesitate...
Lithalnas
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#5 - 2012-02-02 22:59:25 UTC
I dont think it matters much, I like Radeon right now in terms of Price/performance and the 69xx series is going to to down in price now that the 79xx series is out. As to using CUDA cores to do video encoding. It really will not matter, your difference is going to be less than 10% So instead of rendering in 1 hours, CUDA will render in 55min. Unless you are doing 24/7 rendering you are not going to see a lot of difference.

Other than that, you have a good build. I might go with an H60 instead of the A70, it just works better than most air cooling.



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NightmareX
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#6 - 2012-02-02 23:09:26 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Lithalnas wrote:
I dont think it matters much, I like Radeon right now in terms of Price/performance and the 69xx series is going to to down in price now that the 79xx series is out. As to using CUDA cores to do video encoding. It really will not matter, your difference is going to be less than 10 percent So instead of rendering in 1 hours, CUDA will render in 55min. Unless you are doing 24/7 rendering you are not going to see a lot of difference.

Other than that, you have a good build. I might go with an H60 instead of the A70, it just works better than most air cooling.

Thanks for the reply.

After what the reviews are saying, the GPU i have choosen is not getting as hot as the Radeon 6950 card, and the Asus Geforce GTX 560 TI DCII TOP card is even more silent than the Radeon HD 6950 card.

When i go so far to buy the Asus Sabertooth P67 card that actually lowers the temprature with the Thermal Armor Shield it have according to this, then i might aswell get a GPU that is producing lesser hot air Big smile

The lower the temprature is on the CPU, the higher i can clock the CPU.

I will actually buy the Corsair H100 cooler later when i'm gonna buy the Corsair Obsidian 650D computer case so i can take the full advantage of the cooler in that computer case.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Amaroq Dricaldari
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-02-03 02:06:52 UTC
NightmareX, eh? Why does that sound familiar?

This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

NightmareX
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#8 - 2012-02-03 02:20:59 UTC
Amaroq Dricaldari wrote:
NightmareX, eh? Why does that sound familiar?

My name has always sounded familiar, or at least for some years Big smile

Does M. Corp and the INFOD movie Bringers of Hatred says you something?

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Amaroq Dricaldari
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-02-03 02:28:25 UTC
Actually, niether of those names rings a bell.

I was actually thinking of an old game from 2002...

This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

NightmareX
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2012-02-03 02:41:36 UTC
Amaroq Dricaldari wrote:
Actually, niether of those names rings a bell.

I was actually thinking of an old game from 2002...

Aha Big smile

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Amaroq Dricaldari
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-02-03 02:45:33 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Aha Big smile

Damnit!

This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-02-03 04:59:18 UTC
i would go with the 560ti, in a few years you can probably use it as a physx card, plus nvidia always seems to have better drivers.

if you plan on mining bitcoins though, AMD>nvidia.
Amaroq Dricaldari
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-02-03 05:20:24 UTC
I would also go for Nvidia.

In addition to being able to use Hardware Accelerated PhysX, you also get 3D Vision, which is better than HD3D. Not only that, but there are rumors that the GTX 660 and 760 are going to rival (or even beat) the Radeon HD 7970.

The GTX 600 series cards are going to be for Mobile Setups, while the 700 series will be for Desktops and Enthuesiasts.

I also have a link to the Nvidia Forums.

This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

SlayerOfArgus
Hermes Enterprises
#14 - 2012-02-03 13:19:32 UTC
I have the non ti version for that card and it runs most games pretty well. I have had the driver fail and then come back on me a few times. And I've noticed that with mine, if I run everything at max settings then it'll get pretty hot. Around 75C. And like the previous people have said, the PhysX is nice. Although remember, there is no 3D support for eve.
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#15 - 2012-02-04 01:33:35 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
I have now managed to start up the computer again with 2 of the 4 RAM modules i have. That means i'm running my computer stable with 2 GB RAM at this point so far. I managed to start up the computer and reinstall Windows 7 after i took down the whole computer and cleaned the computer for dust and such and then did put it together again (yeah i'm very good at this kind of stuffs).

But there is still something fishy with the motherboard or the RAM slots on the motherboard or the RAM modules it self since i will lose the picture on my LED-TV or my computer wont show the post of the BIOS and that if i put in the last 2 RAM modules on the motherboard.

I also tested my PSU on another computer where it worked very good. So tomorrow i'm gonna test one of my friends PSU on my own computer to see if that will make any difference.

So lets hope the PSU is all fine, because if the PSU is broken to, then i have to buy a new PSU to.

The next thing i'm gonna do when i have installed all of the graphic / chipset drivers and that kind of stuffs, then i'm gonna test out some games and some 1080p movies to see if the PSU holds.

I have got one guy that is very keen on getting the MacBook Air i'm selling, but he wont get the money before 15. February though. So lets hope he really want it if i haven't sold it before that.

To be honest, i'm already starting to miss EVE, since i haven't managed to play EVE any since i got those problems with my main computer. Ofc i can log into EVE with my laptop, but it's not any good for doing any PVP / PVE with it.

Now lets hope the computer doesn't fail me one more time even when i kinda feel like it will soon fail again heh.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Lithalnas
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#16 - 2012-02-04 07:56:07 UTC
Sounds like a wonky mobo to me, I would RMA it.

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Amaroq Dricaldari
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-02-04 08:27:13 UTC
SlayerOfArgus wrote:
I have the non ti version for that card and it runs most games pretty well. I have had the driver fail and then come back on me a few times. And I've noticed that with mine, if I run everything at max settings then it'll get pretty hot. Around 75C. And like the previous people have said, the PhysX is nice. Although remember, there is no 3D support for eve.

Actually, there is. It just isn't very good support.

This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

NightmareX
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#18 - 2012-02-04 17:21:09 UTC
Lithalnas wrote:
Sounds like a wonky mobo to me, I would RMA it.

To bad the warranty on the motherboard is long gone since the warranty period have gone out.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

NightmareX
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2012-02-05 00:22:08 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Alright, here is an update. I have now been running my current computer for about 12 hours now and i can say for sure that the computer is very unstable no matter what i do.

I can get the computer to run somewhat stable with only 1 x RAM module (1 GB) on the motherboard. The other RAM module is giving me lots of BSOD's when i try to install things. The 2 others wont even give me a picture when i start up the computer if i have them on the motherboard.

The other problem i have now is telling me that there must be a problem with the PSU to, because when i start to watch some YouTube videos in 1080p, then the computer either just cuts the power to the GPU or it will just shut the computer off totally. The same happens when i try to play a game. The only difference here is that the computer instantly powers off when i start a game while i can watch a 1080p movie on YouTube for some mins before the computer shut it self down.

So my feeling says to me that the PSU is broken. But i hope it's not the PSU, since i will have to pay more money for a new PSU to then.

Tomorrow i will try out a PSU that one of my friends have on my computer to see if the same happens.

What do you guys think it might be?

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Lithalnas
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#20 - 2012-02-05 06:27:00 UTC
I think you have about a week before all the magic purple smoke is gone, I suggest backing up.

https://www.facebook.com/RipSeanVileRatSmith shoot at blue for Vile Rat http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73406

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