Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Fitting room too. I can't see any reason they shouldn't be able to fit 4x Med RR and the modules to go with them (resist mods, cap mods to be able to perma-run, prop mod, etc). This would give them half of the repping power of T2 Cruiser Logi ships.

jeah half of T2 variant is enough, dunno how to balance too, but would be useful

Maybe limit the bonuses for Small Booster/repper etc and for Traking Links only a 5% Bonus

Jeah Cycle Bonus would be cool, din't postet it, because i thought it will be op.

But i dont know about the ShipBonus for Shield/Armor/Energy transfer. Because we have four Races but only 3 Transfers.

Thats why i choose Tracking Link too, as their T2 brothers/sisters, but only with half Bonus

Some Suggestions

Amarr: Armor/Energy

T1:
Amarr Destroyer Skill Bonus: 75% bonus to Small Energy Transfer Array and Small Remote Armor Repair System range

Amarr Cruiser Skill Bonus: 7,5% reduction in Small Energy Transfer Array and Small Remote Armor Repair System capacitor use per level

Role Bonus: -32,5% power need for Small Remote Armor Repair Systems and -25% power need for Small Energy Transfer Arrays

T2:
Amarr Cruiser Skill Bonus: 150% bonus to Energy Transfer Array and Remote Armor Repair System range and 20% bonus to Armor Maintenance Bot transfer amount per level

Logistics Skill Bonus: 15% reduction in Energy Transfer Array and Remote Armor Repair System capacitor use per level

Role Bonus: -65% power need for Remote Armor Repair Systems and -50% power need for Energy Transfer Arrays

Caldari: Shield/Energy

T1:
Caldari Destroyer Skill Bonus: 75% bonus to Small Shield Transport and Small Energy Transfer Array range

Caldari Cruiser Skill Bonus: 7,5% reduction in Small Shield Transport and Small Energy Transfer Array capacitor use per level

Role Bonus: -25% CPU need for Small Shield Transporters and -25% power need for Small Energy Transfer Arrays


T2:
Caldari Cruiser Skill Bonus: 150% bonus to Shield Transport and Energy Transfer Array range and 20% bonus to Shield Maintenance Bot transfer amount per level

Logistics Skill Bonus: 15% reduction in Shield Transport and Energy Transfer Array capacitor use per level

Role Bonus: -50% CPU need for Shield Transporters and -50% power need for Energy Transfer Arrays

Gallente: Armor/Tracking

T1:
Gallente Destroyer Skill Bonus: 75% bonus to Small Remote Armor Repair System and Tracking Link range

Gallente Cruiser Skill Bonus: 7,5% reduction in Small Remote Armor Repair System capacitor use and 5% bonus to Tracking Link efficiency per level

Role Bonus: -32,5% power need for Small Remote Armor Repair Systems

T2:
Gallente Cruiser Skill Bonus: 150% bonus to Remote Armor Repair System and Tracking Link range 20% bonus to Armor Maintenance Bot transfer amount per level

Logistics Skill Bonus: 15% reduction in Remote Armor Repair System capacitor use and 10% bonus to Tracking Link efficiency per level

Role Bonus: -65% power need for Remote Armor Repair Systems

Minmatar: Shield/Tracking

T1:
Minmatar Destroyer Skill Bonus: 75% bonus to Tracking Link and Small Shield Transport range

Minmatar Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Tracking Link efficiency and 7,5% reduction in Small Shield Transport capacitor use per level

Role Bonus: -25% CPU need for Small Shield Transporters

T2:
Minmatar Cruiser Skill Bonus: 150% bonus to Tracking Link and Shield Transport range and 20% bonus to Shield Maintenance Bot transport amount per level

Logistics Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Tracking Link efficiency and 15% reduction in Shield Transport capacitor use per level

Role Bonus: -50% CPU need for Shield Transporters

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The Ships should have:

1. Half of Shield/Armor Resist bonuses of the T2 Ships
2. Racial Shield/Armor HP Bonus
3. Good Cap to fit em with low skills

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Requirements:

Destroyer III
Racial Fregatte III
Spaceship Command III
Electronics II
Long Range Targeting II
Signature Analysis II

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So the ppl skill for T1Logis and to get better Bonus the have to skill up Cruiser. So they skill passiv for T2 Logis (Cruiser V, Long Range Targeting V, Signature Analysis V) too

Just a suggestion, but with that they wont be op.

k r

I choose low req and a Tier 2 variant because of low skill req for newbies ^^

Jeah but Logistics req Signature Analysis V and Long Range Targeting V, and we talked about low-Skill starter Logi ships.

Hey an idea we actually agree on!
This looks like a great start on a new class of ship, but could definitely use some testing. Slot reorganization may be necessary to make these ships effective in this new role. I don't agree with the EWAR immunity as this will likely lead to these being extremely difficult to kill and lead to unexpected balancing issues. The triage module on the other hand is likely to just get these ships volleyed when facing larger ships. Since current destroyer hulls have roughly the same sig radius of current logistic ships, would you suggest decreasing the sig radius of these mini logi? A reduction to MWD cap penalty may be a good option for a role bonus, allowing these ships to keep up with the fleets they're intended to protect.

Why would dropping the price to 250k be necessary. 25 mill isn't that horrible since you will need it later when you are considering moving into a logistics cruiser.

Tutorials aren't completely necessary. The players should be teaching people how to use logistics really.

Skill prices for comparison:

Interdictors...................18mill
Logistics.......................25mill
Heavy Assault Ships...28.8mill

I think the price is bang on. Especially considering you are getting a skill that gives you two different ship classes for one skill across all four races. At the end of the day, a light logistics ship or "ship tender" or whatever you think it should be called is a T2 ship concept. The entry level is the T1 cruiser. This ship concept is the entry level to T2 use. Costs 25% of a T2 logistics cruiser fully fitted and will require some skills to be at level 5 and not trainable on a trial account. This isn't something a week old player is going to be flying.

Very much needed. Frigate fleets can't have Ospreys or Exquerors as logistics because those two ships sucks big times. They can't have T2 logistic ships because they cost 15x more than most AFs.

u didnt get my point.

T2 Destroyer need min Skill to fly:

- Destroyer V
- Logistic 1
- Shield/repair/Energy Emission System I
- Racial Frigate V
- Space Ship Command IV
- Evasive Maneuvering V

T2 Logistic Cruiser:

- Racial Cruiser V
- Racial Frigate IV
- Spaceship Command III
- Shield/repair/Energy Emission System I
- Signature Analysis V
- Long Range Targeting V
- Logistic I

If u want T2 Destroyer for that with the normal T2 Skills ppl have to Skill:

- Frigate V instead of IV
- Evasive Maneuvering V instead of not needed
- Destroyer V instead of not needed
- Spaceship Command IV instead of III

u get it now ?

thats why i suggest to skill destroyer and Cruisers for Bonus, or change the T1 hulls

fell free to discuss

k r