Science & Industry

So my major concern with me and my corp is we run in a wormhole and I alone spend alot of time mining to this point I pull in 200k m3 of ore an hour thanks to my perfect orca character. I am trying to build a pos so that my corp won't suffer because of the possible millions of M3 of ore I can pull in a day (1.4m in 7 hours around enough to fill a corp hanger full. this wouldn't be a problem if not for the fact I am running on our main pos only 1 regular refining array. so after 7 hhours of mining only 200k of my ore is dealt with while the other 1.2 million m3 is in the corp mantinece array.

Anyway I am trying to end the end setup an effective pos perferably medium that can hold 2+ refinineries while having a corp hanger and at least a defence that will cause any wormhole invaders to pause before attacking it. I have tried using Eve HQ to setup one but I am a bit behind on how to use it so I could use some help. Also if you could tell me how many fuel blocks this POS would use a month.

Yeah I think I might go with a large control tower. If you can set me up anything using one of those its fine to.

thanks everyone after much work with a few people online and on Eve HQ I finaly got one setup...with enough firepower to put the death star to shame... not quite but anything short of a carrier is gonna hang back.

You can't use much of anything big in the pos only a hanger array and an intinsive refinery the rest is a mix of medium and small turrets with ecm/warp disrution/scrambling/stasis webs.

30 days is 720 hours

a large POS uses 40 blocks per hour x 720 = 28800 blocks for 30 days
a medium POS uses 20 blocks per hour x 720 = 14400 blocks for 30 days
a small POS uses 10 blocks per hour x 720 = 7200 blocks for 30 days

the ratio of power grid and CPU is about the same with a medium tower having about double the CPU and power of a small and using double the fuel, A large POS again about double what a medium has for twice the fuel, so your ratio of fuel blocks to power grid and CPU is about the same for all towers.

If you can fit what you need on a medium POS that is your most efficient way to go. However, you need to ask yourself. Is the added defense capability of a large tower worth doubling the fuel bill?? In most cases, especially in wormholes it is well worth it. A medium POS is way to easy to take down outside of empire space. Even in empire it is not a huge task.

P.S. have you considered an assembly array for storage rather than a corp hanger?

Unless a lot has change in POS refining,

1) Nothing less than a large makes sense, as a Medium Intense Refining Array is garbage as it holds next to nothing

2) You cannot get more than 1 of the larger refining arrays on a POS.

3) Corp hangers suck for storage, XL array are the way to go.

4) Refining in a WH sucks as you lose 25% minimum. If at all possible compress and export to empire.

Last time I ran numbers even ABC ores at 75% refining in W-space yielded barely more ISK/hour than Empire ores at 100%, at substantially more risk. Factor in the 400m+ for a POS and thats a lot of mining to match Isk/hr of High Sec mining.

so is 75% W-Space mining isk/hr - Fuel costs > High Sec mining.

So if at all possible use the corp POS and don't set up your own.

That easily could have changed since the last time I checked.

Unless you are using the minerals locally to build stuff, compress and export to empire.

I would really love to transport the ore out but you have to look at it like this.

last night me and 2 other guys thats 3 in total filled up the corp hanger(all 1.4 million m3) with minerals. This is a c2 wormhole so we are looking at using orcas to run out around 10+ trips while we did move it all out we went through 3 different wormholes the last one putting us in 0.5 sec on a island in the middle of null sec systems. None of us can use a rorqual closest one is me at 1 and a half months of training on my Main account which I am training pvp on my main.

we filled the pos up in 3 hours. While yes it would be better to get the 100% bonus we just don't have that option without collapsing over 10 wormholes a day in god knows how many systems. which is why we must have this refining array.

again closest person to useing a rorqual with the next one being 4 months out is me at 1 and a half months of training on a character I can't train stuff on. So say 4 months

can't take a freighter into a c2 wormhole and even with the itty runing 40k m3 over and over thats over 40 runs back and forth with a itty. that would take hours of the time we could be mining.

Basicly its this I spend 3 hours mining then 4 hours running mins back and forth into and out of the wormhole so I can start pumping out stuff in my other pos. I end up loosing over 60% minerals this way compared to the 25 of refining in a intense array.

time over ease means I would loose out minerals shiping in and out of the wormhole Its almost just as good to put it into a normal refining array.

But none of them will ever spawn in a C2. You are not getting a Freighter into a C2.

1) What are you using the minerals for? If you are using them in the hole to build anything other then capital ships you are wasting your time.

2) What are you mining in? If you are mining in Hulks you are risking a lot for marginal return over a Covetor.

In the end, look at the numbers as I suggested.

If after paying for POS Fuel the ABC ores at 75% refining and Covetor yields do not make more then highest High Sec ore at Hulk Yields, then stay mining in HS until you can get a Rorq into the C2.

Also keep in mind you need to mine a lot of ore to justify the 2B on a Rorq also. and that is money lost as it will be hard to get the Isk back out when you move.

Also, refining arrays are the first thing people like me in stealthy ships with too much time to kill look for when thinking of wormholes to pester.

And last, keep in mind there is or has been serious talk of moving ABC ores out of W-Space under C4's. Rest assured the minute you finish the Rorq, they will nerf ores in w-space.

Just the $.02 of someone who lived in W-space and learned that mining ABC ores to lose 25% of the value when refining, at very increased risk, AND having to pay 400M a month for a POS to refine it at, is most likely a waste of time.