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CCP you want to fix low sec?? IF you REALLY want to then listen to me.
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Lord Xyr'dan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-02-01 05:18:43 UTC
Make Supers have NO offensive ability in low sec.

They can move through to travel, but they are for SOV HOLDING ALLIANCES!! Not for hot dropping random targets in low sec!!!

And yes I am mad. I just lost a Rev and barely got out my Moros. Killing a POS in low sec and a random Null sec guy hot drops ONE super on us. Our BSes fall trying to pop his fighter bombers to save the two dreads. He pulls them in and put out fighters. We can't kill his fighters so the BSes die. Then my Rev can't get out either before succumbing to the Supercarrier.

I just thought that the nerf was supposed to make them not taken out solo. They would need support. Apparantly they are STILL WTFSOLOPWNMOBILEs.

Low sec can't be for us mid sized alliances and corps fighting over POSes and POCOs without worrying about supers.

If I got dropped by 10 dreads and carriers or titan bridged by thier support too thats fine. That takes people.

a SOLO Nyx taking out ALL our ships is ********. We aren't going to fight over things in low sec because we are too scared now we will lose another Dread. We don't have Tech moons to fuel cap ship funds. We can't even moon mine since the sec isn't low enough.

Dread buff and Super nerfs were not enough. Maybe they were enough for null but we NEED low sec to be about smaller ships fighting. Dreads and carriers at the biggest. Should be a stepping stone to null.

Not assigning fighters and no DDD in low sec isn't enough. REMOVE all offensive abilties of supers in low sec.

That will help low sec grow into a more populated area....

and YES I'M MAD BRO.

But I'm not quitting so you can't have my stuff.

Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2012-02-01 05:21:14 UTC
Post with your main and link the km.

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Lord Xyr'dan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-02-01 05:23:17 UTC
No cause it doesnt matter who it was. The fact remains that supers dont belong ganking stuff in low sec. They should be able to move and activate defense modules.. otherwise move them back to null. They are for sov warfare.

Actually supers shouldnt even exist but thats a differant argument. Many people know that the creation of Titans and Moms was a mistake...
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-02-01 05:27:26 UTC
Losing dreads and a support fleet of battleships to one Nyx is more indicative of your failures as an alliance than anything else.

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Lord Xyr'dan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-02-01 05:30:28 UTC
No it isn't. A Nyx will be fit with Officer stuff and we had 3 BSes. The BSes werent even ready to come in yet as the dreads were still incapping the POS guns and ECM batteries etc.

Yeah it was a small operation. But still it just sucks that ONE ship trumps all we had. Low sec isn't about that. I have live in low sec for years and i enjoy the smaller fleet combats. Not supers that require rediculous incomes to be able to buy.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#6 - 2012-02-01 05:32:21 UTC
So the sum of this tale is; you are just really terrible.

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Lord Xyr'dan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-02-01 05:33:56 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
So the sum of this tale is; you are just really terrible.



No you fail to understand the rant.

But as a vet I knew this was coming. *sigh*
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-02-01 05:37:21 UTC
You realize that a properly fit Revelation, in siege, can easily tank a full flight of fighterbombers even from a Nyx, right?

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Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-02-01 05:38:08 UTC
Lord Xyr'dan wrote:
No it isn't. A Nyx will be fit with Officer stuff and we had 3 BSes. The BSes werent even ready to come in yet as the dreads were still incapping the POS guns and ECM batteries etc.

Yeah it was a small operation. But still it just sucks that ONE ship trumps all we had. Low sec isn't about that. I have live in low sec for years and i enjoy the smaller fleet combats. Not supers that require rediculous incomes to be able to buy.




3 whole battleships?

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Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2012-02-01 05:41:48 UTC
Lord Xyr'dan wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
So the sum of this tale is; you are just really terrible.



No you fail to understand the rant.

But as a vet I knew this was coming. *sigh*


No. I understand it perfectly, you lost a bunch of ships including your dread and was on the verge of losing another to one single Nyx - I understand that you are just terrible.

Veterans of terrible perhaps?

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Lord Xyr'dan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-02-01 05:41:58 UTC
Andski wrote:
You realize that a properly fit Revelation, in siege, can easily tank a full flight of fighterbombers even from a Nyx, right?


What is a properly fit Rev? I had a DC II, CAR I, Four T2 Hardeners and two Heat Sink IIs. I realize i coulda tanked it harder but i gotta have SOME DPS yeah?
Lord Xyr'dan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-02-01 05:43:20 UTC
Andski wrote:
You realize that a properly fit Revelation, in siege, can easily tank a full flight of fighterbombers even from a Nyx, right?



And also, i was stopped sieging to try and get out. i was 30km out when I popped. i figured anotehr 5km and i might have been out of his officer point range... *shrug*
Lord Xyr'dan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-02-01 05:46:58 UTC
Aiwha wrote:
Lord Xyr'dan wrote:
No it isn't. A Nyx will be fit with Officer stuff and we had 3 BSes. The BSes werent even ready to come in yet as the dreads were still incapping the POS guns and ECM batteries etc.

Yeah it was a small operation. But still it just sucks that ONE ship trumps all we had. Low sec isn't about that. I have live in low sec for years and i enjoy the smaller fleet combats. Not supers that require rediculous incomes to be able to buy.




3 whole battleships?



Did you miss the small operation part?

Not everyone wants to be in a 1000 man alliance.
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-02-01 05:56:27 UTC
Lord Xyr'dan wrote:
Aiwha wrote:
Lord Xyr'dan wrote:
No it isn't. A Nyx will be fit with Officer stuff and we had 3 BSes. The BSes werent even ready to come in yet as the dreads were still incapping the POS guns and ECM batteries etc.

Yeah it was a small operation. But still it just sucks that ONE ship trumps all we had. Low sec isn't about that. I have live in low sec for years and i enjoy the smaller fleet combats. Not supers that require rediculous incomes to be able to buy.




3 whole battleships?



Did you miss the small operation part?

Not everyone wants to be in a 1000 man alliance.



That nyx must have been hacking, there's no way three POS bashing fit BS's costing less than a billion could be outmatched by a 15 billion isk death machine. I'd petition that.

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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
#15 - 2012-02-01 05:56:41 UTC
Leaving this here

Madposting because you weren't even slightly prepared for the task at hand won't help anything
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-02-01 05:58:18 UTC
Give my best to the Nyx pilot he sounds like quite a guy
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-02-01 06:37:24 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
Give my best to the Nyx pilot he sounds like quite a guy


I admire his panache, tbh. Hotdropping a couple of dreads might seem like it's all fun and games, but they are excellent bait as well.

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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-02-01 06:37:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Tobias Sjodin
Here are the bottom lines:

1. You were in hot drop territory, and did not know this.
2. You were ill prepared for a hot drop, believing that you would be able to do what you wanted without reprieve.
3. You mismanaged the entire operation, likely causing you to lose more than was necessary.
4. You undocked in something you could not afford to lose (or you would not be crying on the forums about it).
5. You did not see your own mistake in it, and thus did not learn anything from the experience which means you will likely be a repeat-offender idiot.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#19 - 2012-02-01 06:53:34 UTC
Sorry but the wall of death syndrome needs to go away first before people curiously wander out there.

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NaturalBeast
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-02-01 07:01:20 UTC
So when the SC landed on the field you stood and stared in amazement. Ohhhh the pretty lights. Oh looks its all blinky red. And look at the marvelous fireworks. What a pretty sight.

Oh **** we dead.


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