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[Proposal] Unlearning skills. SP refunding...

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Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#61 - 2012-02-01 01:31:24 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Hey I am only replying to this thread when someone else does. I am not bumping it needlessly. It is obvious it is mostly hated by those that browse these forums. You are more than welcome to not respond to this thread at all and let it die.


1: Then stop posting.

2: Stop playing "The Last word game"


You wont read...you wont listen...you won't think...you just guess...assume...and wildly speculate.

That was the point of that wonderful wall of text.

While I may not completely agree...at least its rational...and it makes sense....unlike the tripe you post all over hell half the time.

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Jon Marburg
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#62 - 2012-02-01 04:45:02 UTC
Your proposal is broken. If you unlearned stuff at half the rate of learning stuff and unlearned sp can go directly into skills, you're basically doubling learning sp gain. Everyone would just start constantly unlearning those skills that they are mapped for to maximize sp amount returned and put new sp in what they want to actual have trained even if its the same skills as you're receiving twice as much sp for your time.
The only sp reallocation I could support is where you get a small amount of sp to move every year similar to a remap, lets say 2 million sp. You get a month of training back to allocate where you currently need it, but 2 million a year isn't significant enough or frequent enough to allow FOTM.
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#63 - 2012-02-01 13:39:57 UTC
Jon Marburg wrote:
Your proposal is broken. If you unlearned stuff at half the rate of learning stuff and unlearned sp can go directly into skills, you're basically doubling learning sp gain. Everyone would just start constantly unlearning those skills that they are mapped for to maximize sp amount returned and put new sp in what they want to actual have trained even if its the same skills as you're receiving twice as much sp for your time.
The only sp reallocation I could support is where you get a small amount of sp to move every year similar to a remap, lets say 2 million sp. You get a month of training back to allocate where you currently need it, but 2 million a year isn't significant enough or frequent enough to allow FOTM.


I think you should rethink that for a minute. If it takes more time to unlearn a skill and you can't train another skill in the meantime...how can you possibly double your SP? I see what you are saying but you are thinking about it wrong. If I have 1 million SP and it took me 1 year to attain that I can unlearn the skills and refund the entire 1 million SP in 6 months. I still only have 1 million SP but if I had not unlearned anything to begin with and had just kept on training I would have 1.5 million SP.

The point is...new players that screwed up and want to keep playing but don't want to have to wait another 3 months just to train the skills they need that they already have the SP for can do it in less time but still be punished for screwing up. Older vets that have dedicated years to this game who really have nothing of value to train won't need this. The people in the middle might invest a little time to get rid of a few skills they regret taking that they never use in favor of those they might use more while still being punished. I doubt there is anybody out there that is going to get rid of all of their skills simply to respec entirely. Most people have at least a little direction and just dabbled in one or two other professions on the way up.

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