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EVE IPH Industry Calculator Version 3.3 - Now with Live Market data!

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Jas Dor
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2012-01-31 06:32:36 UTC
Am I wrong in thinking that the manufacturing list screen now shows a 30 day average and not the current lowest sell order?
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#22 - 2012-01-31 11:36:22 UTC
Juang Haichi wrote:
Hi there,

I've been using your program for 2 months now and I have to say it's really saving me a lot of time and work I would have to do otherwise. After beating the crap out of excel sheets and thinking about putting together a similar project I came across yours and I'm really happy that I didn't have to do it myself ;-) I think there will be some isk left within the next couple of days after paying for the game time which will go to your wallet then, really appreciate your work.

This said, I got some bugs bothering me since 2.0 came out yesterday. It's almost always crashing the program with this message: "Object reference not set to an instance of an object." I'm working with windows 7 professional, 64bit.

The first one which I could identify can be reproduced as follows:

1. Get a price update (if you haven't already earlier)
2. Select any blueprint in the "Blueprint" tab
3. Click the "Add to shopping list" button
4. Go back to the "Update Price" tab
5. Import prices again
6. Program crashes

Hope this can get fixed anyhow, I really like to check prices in different regions and look how much I can save buying there. The need to rebuild the shopping list after each price update is really annoying.

Cheers mate


Thanks for the report. I'll look at it tonight and get a fix up soon.

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Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#23 - 2012-01-31 11:40:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Zifrian
Jas Dor wrote:
Am I wrong in thinking that the manufacturing list screen now shows a 30 day average and not the current lowest sell order?

The 30 day average is just the volume for the SVR calculation. All the prices are from whatever you choose in the Update prices tab.

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Gal'xa
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2012-01-31 12:41:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Gal'xa
An Unhandled Exception has occured and EVE Isk per Hour will now close.
Please copy the data below for sending to developer.

Source: System.Core
Message: Value cannot be null.
Parameter name: source

Also, please fill out the following information as appropriate:

Operating System: windows 7 64 bit
Screen or Tab where Error Occurred: after entering API key
Steps to reproduce the Error: enter api key



update: managed to open the prog, but only 1 of the 2 selected toon was imported, tried again and now the 2 toons are available, got new error tho

An Unhandled Exception has occured and EVE Isk per Hour will now close.
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Operating System: windows 7 64 bit
Screen or Tab where Error Occurred: update prices
Steps to reproduce the Error: select all item -> import prices
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#25 - 2012-01-31 23:24:13 UTC
Fixed your error Gal'xa

Build 2.0.4413.32196

  • Users can now reset all data again
  • Users can now import characters with no standings without crashing
  • The Updater will show the main form again when updating

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Damien Sahl
Arkhon Enterprises
#26 - 2012-02-01 00:24:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Damien Sahl
doh!
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#27 - 2012-02-01 15:14:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Zifrian
Juang Haichi, fixed your error with shopping list. Thanks for the report.

Build 2.0.4414.30357

  • All tabs will be reset after resetting all settings
  • Research agents with 0 standing will now show 0
  • View Research Agents will now only show research agents by loaded character
  • Updating Prices while there are items in the Shopping List will no longer crash the program

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Director Producer
LRC Inc.
#28 - 2012-02-01 15:16:19 UTC
Very nice tool, thanks a lot for the noob I am in industry.
It helps me a lot Blink
Ten Bulls
Sons of Olsagard
#29 - 2012-02-02 23:32:17 UTC
Feature Request: Set prices based multiple trade hub systems

Rational: A manufacturer may be willing to visit several trade hubs to buy/sell at a better price. It s not that hard to visit a few trade hubs, but its a lot harder to track down and visit the cheapest systems from multiple regions, especially if you have a long shopping list.

Detail: In the 'update prices' tab, allow multiple trade hub systems to be selected, so if 'minimum sell' price import type was selected, the final price would be the minimum price from all the selected trade hubs (systems not regions).


Thanks
Deamos
Hideaway Hunters
The Hideaway.
#30 - 2012-02-03 00:34:35 UTC
Think I just found a bug.

The manufacturing calculator doesn't take in consideration owned vs unowned, even if you click the owned BPO filter button.

Plus: A reminder on a recommendation I made prior, can we get a method of tracking current manufacturing orders and a method for defining production "baskets", a group of BPOs that are typically produced together?
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#31 - 2012-02-03 01:16:34 UTC
Ten Bulls wrote:
Feature Request: Set prices based multiple trade hub systems

Rational: A manufacturer may be willing to visit several trade hubs to buy/sell at a better price. It s not that hard to visit a few trade hubs, but its a lot harder to track down and visit the cheapest systems from multiple regions, especially if you have a long shopping list.

Detail: In the 'update prices' tab, allow multiple trade hub systems to be selected, so if 'minimum sell' price import type was selected, the final price would be the minimum price from all the selected trade hubs (systems not regions).

Thanks

Interesting suggestion. I can do it. It'll take longer to update the prices, but not an issue. The problem though will be on the output. I guess I could just list the hub I imported the price from in the grid? I'm trying to figure out how you would use this. I'm assuming that you would update prices, add a few items to the shopping list, then I output the price plus the location it was imported?

If that's what you are thinking I can do it, but it'll take a bit of work.

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Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#32 - 2012-02-03 01:17:12 UTC
Deamos wrote:
Think I just found a bug.

The manufacturing calculator doesn't take in consideration owned vs unowned, even if you click the owned BPO filter button.

Plus: A reminder on a recommendation I made prior, can we get a method of tracking current manufacturing orders and a method for defining production "baskets", a group of BPOs that are typically produced together?

I'm not seeing the issue you are having with the manufacturing calculator. Do you have specific options selected? I've tried a few different variations and have the same result.

On your other recommendations, I'll be working on several of them in the old thread and here in a short while. Just want to get all the main bugs worked out of this first.

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Eve Tycoon II
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-02-03 10:38:43 UTC
Nice to see that you adopted my metric of item saleability Smile. Good luck with your app.
Deamos
Hideaway Hunters
The Hideaway.
#34 - 2012-02-03 12:37:06 UTC
Zifrian wrote:
Deamos wrote:
Think I just found a bug.

The manufacturing calculator doesn't take in consideration owned vs unowned, even if you click the owned BPO filter button.

Plus: A reminder on a recommendation I made prior, can we get a method of tracking current manufacturing orders and a method for defining production "baskets", a group of BPOs that are typically produced together?

I'm not seeing the issue you are having with the manufacturing calculator. Do you have specific options selected? I've tried a few different variations and have the same result.

On your other recommendations, I'll be working on several of them in the old thread and here in a short while. Just want to get all the main bugs worked out of this first.



Strange. No big difference in the options. Go to Manufacturing, change the filter from all BPs to Owned BPs, Hit preview item list, shows T2 BP that I dont own. Hit calculate, and it throws up the "Will take some time warning" and then it calculates the BPOs. This being said, the list appears to be different from the "All BPs" filter, kind of like some T2 BPs, etc are leaking in to my Owned BP screen.

Glad to hear you will be working on the recommendations.

Thanks for the response and I hope you can reproduce this bug.
Nightshade Mary
Darkwater Innovations
#35 - 2012-02-03 23:09:16 UTC
For some reason I can't see my owned BPO/BPC anywhere. I thought those would be imported with the asset list?
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#36 - 2012-02-03 23:21:45 UTC
Deamos wrote:
Zifrian wrote:
Deamos wrote:
Think I just found a bug.

The manufacturing calculator doesn't take in consideration owned vs unowned, even if you click the owned BPO filter button.

Plus: A reminder on a recommendation I made prior, can we get a method of tracking current manufacturing orders and a method for defining production "baskets", a group of BPOs that are typically produced together?

I'm not seeing the issue you are having with the manufacturing calculator. Do you have specific options selected? I've tried a few different variations and have the same result.

On your other recommendations, I'll be working on several of them in the old thread and here in a short while. Just want to get all the main bugs worked out of this first.



Strange. No big difference in the options. Go to Manufacturing, change the filter from all BPs to Owned BPs, Hit preview item list, shows T2 BP that I dont own. Hit calculate, and it throws up the "Will take some time warning" and then it calculates the BPOs. This being said, the list appears to be different from the "All BPs" filter, kind of like some T2 BPs, etc are leaking in to my Owned BP screen.

Glad to hear you will be working on the recommendations.

Thanks for the response and I hope you can reproduce this bug.

Well, I think this is the first time I've said this and meant it but....that's not a bug, it's a feature! Smile

I changed the way the owned and all blueprints works so that owned would give all owned plus if you have the T2 box checked, it would show invented blueprints if you had the T1 bp owned. Although, this kinda hoses T2 BPO users since they might not want to see all the invented types.

If you don't want to see the invented types, just uncheck T2 and it will show all the owned. I'm pondering adding a "Include Invented Blueprints" and maybe "Include T3" as options for Owned blueprints but not sure what to do yet. Don't want to make it overly complicated if I can help.

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Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#37 - 2012-02-03 23:23:37 UTC
Nightshade Mary wrote:
For some reason I can't see my owned BPO/BPC anywhere. I thought those would be imported with the asset list?

If you imported them from your assets in Blueprint Management, then you need to mark them as owned there to have them used in the main screens. The assets API doesn't give the ME/PE of the BP's so you need to manually enter them and save them there.

An Owned BP will show up in the manufacturing tab with a tanned line.

Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks!

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Ten Bulls
Sons of Olsagard
#38 - 2012-02-04 07:22:05 UTC
Zifrian wrote:
Ten Bulls wrote:
Feature Request: Set prices based multiple trade hub systems

Rational: A manufacturer may be willing to visit several trade hubs to buy/sell at a better price. It s not that hard to visit a few trade hubs, but its a lot harder to track down and visit the cheapest systems from multiple regions, especially if you have a long shopping list.

Detail: In the 'update prices' tab, allow multiple trade hub systems to be selected, so if 'minimum sell' price import type was selected, the final price would be the minimum price from all the selected trade hubs (systems not regions).

Thanks

Interesting suggestion. I can do it. It'll take longer to update the prices, but not an issue. The problem though will be on the output. I guess I could just list the hub I imported the price from in the grid? I'm trying to figure out how you would use this. I'm assuming that you would update prices, add a few items to the shopping list, then I output the price plus the location it was imported?

If that's what you are thinking I can do it, but it'll take a bit of work.


I was really just thinking about having accurate prices to be used when calculating manufacturing costs.

I assume it could be implemented the same way as when multiple regions are selected.

Jita is a good system to use for prices for most things, but for low end minerals its expensive, which distorts the manufacturing costs when trying to workout what to make. A recent example i came across is producing Capital Construction Parts, Jita is a good place to sell them, but its not a good place to buy the minerals to make them. I could select multiple regions to get a more accurate price, but in reality im not prepared to fly to any system in the regions i select to get a good price, im happy with the best price at any of the major trade hubs.

I dont think its essential to report what system/region the best price is (but i do it in a crude spreadhseet i have), but getting accurate prices is always important.


Thanks
Nightshade Mary
Darkwater Innovations
#39 - 2012-02-04 08:41:37 UTC
Zifrian wrote:
Nightshade Mary wrote:
For some reason I can't see my owned BPO/BPC anywhere. I thought those would be imported with the asset list?

If you imported them from your assets in Blueprint Management, then you need to mark them as owned there to have them used in the main screens. The assets API doesn't give the ME/PE of the BP's so you need to manually enter them and save them there.

An Owned BP will show up in the manufacturing tab with a tanned line.

Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks!

Found it! :)
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#40 - 2012-02-04 11:23:37 UTC
Ten Bulls wrote:
Zifrian wrote:
Ten Bulls wrote:
Feature Request: Set prices based multiple trade hub systems

Rational: A manufacturer may be willing to visit several trade hubs to buy/sell at a better price. It s not that hard to visit a few trade hubs, but its a lot harder to track down and visit the cheapest systems from multiple regions, especially if you have a long shopping list.

Detail: In the 'update prices' tab, allow multiple trade hub systems to be selected, so if 'minimum sell' price import type was selected, the final price would be the minimum price from all the selected trade hubs (systems not regions).

Thanks

Interesting suggestion. I can do it. It'll take longer to update the prices, but not an issue. The problem though will be on the output. I guess I could just list the hub I imported the price from in the grid? I'm trying to figure out how you would use this. I'm assuming that you would update prices, add a few items to the shopping list, then I output the price plus the location it was imported?

If that's what you are thinking I can do it, but it'll take a bit of work.


I was really just thinking about having accurate prices to be used when calculating manufacturing costs.

I assume it could be implemented the same way as when multiple regions are selected.

Jita is a good system to use for prices for most things, but for low end minerals its expensive, which distorts the manufacturing costs when trying to workout what to make. A recent example i came across is producing Capital Construction Parts, Jita is a good place to sell them, but its not a good place to buy the minerals to make them. I could select multiple regions to get a more accurate price, but in reality im not prepared to fly to any system in the regions i select to get a good price, im happy with the best price at any of the major trade hubs.

I dont think its essential to report what system/region the best price is (but i do it in a crude spreadhseet i have), but getting accurate prices is always important.

Thanks

Yeah, totally understand where you are coming from. I thought it about it some more and I think the only place where you would want to see the location of the price is in the shopping list. That's not really that hard to do. Other screens would be more difficult.

I'll play around with it in the next few weeks but it shouldn't be hard to do. The only thing with the price imports from EVE Central is that I have to make 5 separate calls to get the prices since the API only supports one system at a time where with regions it supports multiple. One benefit though is that you would be able to see the system name that gets you the best price. You can't do that with multiple regions. It'll take a bit longer to get the data but I think if it saves you time and isk, it's not going to be a huge issue. Smile

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