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New dev blog: Corporation Forums on the EVE Forums!

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Raid'En
#41 - 2012-01-31 16:28:15 UTC
looks nice, but well, as lots of people i don't need this at all ^^
Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#42 - 2012-01-31 16:31:17 UTC
Awesome for those who do need that stuff.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.
Camios
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2012-01-31 16:32:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Camios
That's nice. The easier it is to organize a corporation, the more corporations we'll have and the best they will be.

It would be even nicer if you could allow access also to specific players that are not members of your corp, but they somewhat need it or deserve it. On a side note: the EVE corporate structure is too rigid, choosing a corp is an aut - aut that in some cases is neither functional to socialization nor it is descriptive of the actual social bonds in the playerbase.
Creper Effrenus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2012-01-31 16:33:56 UTC
Thats very nice. Our corp will definetly use it ... If it will work rgiht ofc...
Razin
The Scope
#45 - 2012-01-31 16:35:09 UTC
Maxwell Albritten wrote:
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
Get your priorities straight

- FIX BBCODE PARSE ERROR WHICH % SIGNS CAUSE
- ALLOW US TO POST IMAGES AND USE SIGNATURE IMAGES LIKE IN OLD FORUMS
- FIX SIGNATURE EDITING TOOL
- ALLOW US TO USE COLORED TEXT LIKE IN OLD FORUMS
- ADD SUPPORT FUNCTION TO ASSEMBLY HALL LIKE IN OLD FORUMS
- FIX SESSION TIMEOUT WHICH FREQUENTLY EATS (USUALLY TIME CONSUMING AND WELL WRITTEN) POSTS
- ADD MORE CUSTOMIZATION OPTIONS TO FORUM LAYOUT. AT LEAST LET US DISABLE SIDE BORDERS AND USE THE FULL WIDTH OF OUR SCREEN. GIVE US ALSO OPTION TO DISABLE THE BACKGROUND IMAGE.
- LINK FORUM TOPIC LIST DEV/GM/CSM/ISD TAGS TO THEIR 1st POSTS IN THE THREADS.
- GIVE US OPTION TO BROWSE THE FORUM WITHOUT JAVA LIKE IN OLD FORUMS.
- MAKE SURE THAT POSSIBLE "GANKED" DOESN'T EAT POSTS.
- ADD VOTING SYSTEM TO FORUM.

AND THEN ADD YOUR CORPORATE FORUMS IF YOU STILL HAVE TIME!


Please ignore everything thing this guy just said. Ignore it all just to prove a point.

Here's clue for the ignorant: CCP has ignored these and other complaints since these forums went public (beta).

All this ignoring has proven at least one point so far: http://tinyurl.com/74ymrxf
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2012-01-31 16:36:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Grey Stormshadow
Then comments about the idea itself...

blog wrote:

Why are we doing this? There are two reasons basically.

We are very interested in providing corporations, particularly new and smaller corporations, with a community enhancing tool which boosts communication and corp cohesion without all the hassle of starting their own external forum.


Ok...

blog wrote:

We also have DUST approaching and this will provide corporations with a cross-game platform where both their EVE members and their DUST members can talk and discuss whose planet to curbstomp next.


...so this pretty much means that you failed to provide cross platform in-game corporation mail, chat or any other way to communicate directly between eve and dust. Now you hope that ps3 users will come to forums to get their share from the dusk-link you've been advertising as ground breaking technology questionmark.

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest
Cailais
The Red Pill Taker Group
#47 - 2012-01-31 16:57:55 UTC
I like. This one get the thumbs up stamp of approval /golf clap.

C.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#48 - 2012-01-31 17:03:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Gogela
What a sweet feature! No maybe I can avoid getting 50 spam messages a day from PHPBB. F-it. [FX7] forum is on EvE gate. Problem solved! Any chance for an alliance tab CCP?

+9001

EDIT:

Chribba wrote:
To the blogging machine!

Also, it will be pretty silent in my forum, any chance that I could open it up to other pilots that would just love to discuss Veldspar with me - without having to accept them into my corp?

/c

Great. Just what I want to see in the Forums. 50k new tabs popping up with empty Veldspar discussion threads.

-1

EDIT2:

Unless there was an opt-in option. Maybe you could make your own forum tab, make it public, and allow people to search for it and opt-in. That would work. Maybe that's what Chribba meant. That would get a +2 modifier to the last edit... ^

EDIT3:
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
blog wrote:

We also have DUST approaching and this will provide corporations with a cross-game platform where both their EVE members and their DUST members can talk and discuss whose planet to curbstomp next.


...so this pretty much means that you failed to provide cross platform in-game corporation mail, chat or any other way to communicate directly between eve and dust. Now you hope that ps3 users will come to forums to get their share from the dusk-link you've been advertising as ground breaking technology questionmark.

Hmm... good point ^ What?

EDIT4:
Solstice Project wrote:
=================B

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2012-01-31 17:13:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
"Awesome".

Now i'll read the rest. ^^

Edit: =================B
Andrea Griffin
#50 - 2012-01-31 17:18:12 UTC
I suggested corp forums a LONG time ago, and always wondered if they would ever get implemented. I'm glad that they are finally here. It will be a HUGE help to smaller / more casual corporations that don't want to bother with external forums. Thank you, CCP!

Grey Stormshadow wrote:
- ALLOW US TO POST IMAGES AND USE SIGNATURE IMAGES LIKE IN OLD FORUMS
Dear god no. It just leads to people being obnoxious and requires that moderators constantly look for morons sticking gigantic pictures in their signatures. Forums without images are better forums. You're still able to link to images if you need, that's good enough.

If you can't make your point without posting some obnoxious anime screen shot, a stupid lolcat, or some other old, tired meme, then you shouldn't post at all.

CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer.
ugh zug
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2012-01-31 17:23:49 UTC
Good job, now i don't need to give out my ip address to be hacked every time i log into a corp website.

Kudos to CCP. btw does anyone know another mmo company that provides guild forums? no? i didn't think so.

Want me to shut up? Remove content from my post,1B. Remove my content from a thread I have started 2B.
Maxwell Albritten
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2012-01-31 17:28:07 UTC
Razin wrote:
Maxwell Albritten wrote:
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
Get your priorities straight

THEN BUNCH OF STUFF IN CAPS


Please ignore everything thing this guy just said. Ignore it all just to prove a point.

Here's clue for the ignorant: CCP has ignored these and other complaints since these forums went public (beta).

All this ignoring has proven at least one point so far: http://tinyurl.com/74ymrxf


Well, as half of the stuff in his caps lock list was terrible (No, you don't need to post in color. We aren't 13-year-old girls here) I hope they keep on ignoring you! YUP!
CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
#53 - 2012-01-31 17:34:05 UTC
Hey all! Nice feedback so far and some good suggestions overall. Looks like this new thing will be welcomed into the world.

- Letting non-corp members into the forum is a suggestion some have mentioned. It won't be possible in the first version but I can see why that would be a nice option to have. Currently this is very much tied to corporation roles as they are what's used to determine access, but our web devs are crafty and I have a whip so we'll see what happens later on.

- Alliance forums are possible with some moderation to the framework we've already built and may become reality later if there's enough interest.

- Many have mentioned more flexibility in regards to roles, who can do what and where. That's definitely something we can play with once the forums are out and we've had time to learn what is needed and what is wanted, as well as what we can do.

- Customizable channels or custom channels. Again, something that we can look at later when we know more. It's one of the options we discussed and decided to ponder upon later.

- Public announcement forum was suggested. A place to post announcements to the read-only-rest-of-the-universe crowd. That's a nice suggestion that we'll take into consideration. We'd have to figure out a way to make it work so that not everyone sees announcements from a billion corps while still being useful as a broadcasting tool.

- Does the current ETA of corp forums have anything to do with Dust? Nope. If it does though, I'm being kept in the dark :(

- Stickies and polls. Stickies will be possible and I'll see about polls.

Did I overlook something? Let me know if you've got further questions and I'll check in later. Right now my stomach is trying to convince me it's dinner time and It's making some pretty solid arguments.

CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer | @CCP_Guard
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2012-01-31 17:34:21 UTC
Maxwell Albritten wrote:
Razin wrote:
Maxwell Albritten wrote:
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
Get your priorities straight

THEN BUNCH OF STUFF IN CAPS


Please ignore everything thing this guy just said. Ignore it all just to prove a point.

Here's clue for the ignorant: CCP has ignored these and other complaints since these forums went public (beta).

All this ignoring has proven at least one point so far: http://tinyurl.com/74ymrxf


Well, as half of the stuff in his caps lock list was terrible (No, you don't need to post in color. We aren't 13-year-old girls here) I hope they keep on ignoring you! YUP!

Don't worry - they will... and I could as well be that 13 year old girl. What is wrong at being 13 and girl anyway? Are you racist?

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest
Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#55 - 2012-01-31 17:38:44 UTC
This is really nice, however can we PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD get CORP PERMISSIONS REVISED!
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
Razin
The Scope
#56 - 2012-01-31 17:39:57 UTC
Andrea Griffin wrote:

Grey Stormshadow wrote:
- ALLOW US TO POST IMAGES AND USE SIGNATURE IMAGES LIKE IN OLD FORUMS
Dear god no. It just leads to people being obnoxious and requires that moderators constantly look for morons sticking gigantic pictures in their signatures. Forums without images are better forums. You're still able to link to images if you need, that's good enough.

If you can't make your point without posting some obnoxious anime screen shot, a stupid lolcat, or some other old, tired meme, then you shouldn't post at all.

Most modern forum software can auto-resize posted images and has user configurable options that allow choices regarding displaying images and signatures, amongst other things. Computer stuff, you know! What will they think of next!
Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#57 - 2012-01-31 17:40:04 UTC
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
Maxwell Albritten wrote:
Razin wrote:
Maxwell Albritten wrote:
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
Get your priorities straight

THEN BUNCH OF STUFF IN CAPS


Please ignore everything thing this guy just said. Ignore it all just to prove a point.

Here's clue for the ignorant: CCP has ignored these and other complaints since these forums went public (beta).

All this ignoring has proven at least one point so far: http://tinyurl.com/74ymrxf


Well, as half of the stuff in his caps lock list was terrible (No, you don't need to post in color. We aren't 13-year-old girls here) I hope they keep on ignoring you! YUP!

Don't worry - they will... and I could as well be that 13 year old girl. What is wrong at being 13 and girl anyway? Are you racist?


I think you mean "sexist"
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
ps3ud0nym
Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society
#58 - 2012-01-31 17:43:24 UTC  |  Edited by: ps3ud0nym
I am truly confused by this. It seems to me a neat, but functionally useless feature.

There is FAR to much emphasis placed at CCP on the whole "Corp" concept. It is my understanding that the vast majority of corps sit at around the 10 member mark and never get any bigger. There are lots of explanations as to why this may be so, but I am pretty sure that the reason they don't get larger isn't a lack of forum options. The fact is that corp communication isn't generally an issue, and by the time it does become an issue, it isn't corp communications you are worrying about, but rather Alliance and Coalition communication!

The issue is this, if you are a corp that is using the CCP forums, you are going to have a harder time when you join an Alliance or Coalition. You can't share those CCP forums with your Alliance, you can't allow access to portions to blues or your Coalition members and worse, it locks all your data into a nice proprietary CCP owned data store and you can't easily access it. It is a good idea, but doesn't seem thought through.

The reality here is that we need tools to help communicate to the people we play with, and CCP doesn't seem to realize that "Corp" isn't the end all and be all of that definition. What I would like to see is a standard permissions system. Use the user as the user object, Alliance/Corp as your first groups (make it so you have custom groups as well) and adopt a rights model like Exchange with various user roles and permissions. I want to be able to share my cache of fits with more than just the people in my corp.

This goes much further.. I want ways to integrate Jabber into EVE.. I want ways to integrate TeamSpeak and Mumble. A competent alliance will have Forums, Jabber, TeamSpeak/Mumble all tied into an auth system that assigns permissions based off API and checking against standings. That is just the BASICS. I really want CCP to realize that there is significant out of game IT resources required to create and maintain a functioning Alliance in EVE, I would like to see CCP dedicate some resources to reducing that over-head.

I don't see this as helping as it replaces a fully functional, if complex and difficult, system, with one that is crippled in the very ways I need it most (Auth and sharing info outside of just the corp level). I applaud the effort, I just think it could be better spent finding ways to make all those services play together better, and more easily integrate with EVE.
Maxwell Albritten
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2012-01-31 17:46:53 UTC
Grey Stormshadow wrote:

Don't worry - they will... and I could as well be that 13 year old girl. What is wrong at being 13 and girl anyway? Are you racist?


Confirming I'm racist against 13-year-olds (regardless of gender).
Daedalus II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2012-01-31 17:49:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Daedalus II
This is really nice for small corps, and when I say that I specifically mean the AUTOMATIC UPDATE OF ACCESS. That is GREAT to have and something that is quite complicated to do on normal forum software.
Either you have to implement or pay for some custom forum software (and the users have to provide API keys which provides a barrier to entry), or you have to monitor the access rights yourself which always ends up in most of your members not being able to access the forums while those that can are no longer in the corp.

GREAT feature :)

Having said that, alliance forums should now be high on the priority list of what to do next.