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Jita and Amarr are 184 lightyears apart.

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Shazzam Vokanavom
Doomheim
#21 - 2012-01-31 04:42:50 UTC
OP hasn't explained the relative position or movement of the observers and wether or not a Lorentz transformation needs to be applied to the process.
Spineker
#22 - 2012-01-31 04:45:49 UTC
If I start drinking Ale with 3 gulps at a time how long until the bottle is empty?
Gregory Brunswick
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-01-31 04:46:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Gregory Brunswick
stoicfaux wrote:
Gregory Brunswick wrote:

T = 1 h 36 m

What do we have? Distance, and time.

184/ 1.67 hrs = 110.18 light years an hour


Someone please confirm or point out error in logic. I'm willing to bet that no one is going to lol.


Incorrect. You have an error in logic. 1h 36m = 96m = 1.6hr. You used 1.67hrs.

Average speed is (52.5 + 62.5) / 2 = 57.5 ly/hr. The meet after Freighter1 travels 84ly and Freighter2 travels 100ly.



Dumb mistake on my part. Thanks for pointing it out. I wouldn't call it a error in logic however. The logic was sound, the error was in converting the minutes into a fraction of an hour.
Gregory Brunswick
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-01-31 04:50:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Gregory Brunswick
Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:
OP hasn't explained the relative position or movement of the observers and wether or not a Lorentz transformation needs to be applied to the process.


I actually heard scientists made a similar mistake recently where they did not take into account the spinning of the earth (or movement of earth through space, don't recall exactly). Easy thing to miss :)
Aggressive Nutmeg
#25 - 2012-01-31 06:44:12 UTC
Wot I Think wrote:
Jita and Amarr are 184 lightyears apart. A freighter leaves Jita traveling towards Amarr, and another freighter leaves Amarr at the same time, traveling towards Jita. The freighter leaving Jita averages 10 lightyears per hour more than the other, and they meet after 1 hour 36 minutes. What are the average speeds of the freighters?

What do you mean? African or European freighter?

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Renturu
In Glorium et Decorum
#26 - 2012-01-31 07:21:12 UTC
Neeerrrdddsss!!!!

/Trololol

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Elistea
BLUE Regiment.
#27 - 2012-01-31 08:42:08 UTC
What the hell is going on here?!
Sephira Galamore
Inner Beard Society
Kvitravn.
#28 - 2012-01-31 09:04:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Sephira Galamore
Wot I Think wrote:
Jita and Amarr are 184 lightyears apart. A freighter leaves Jita traveling towards Amarr, and another freighter leaves Amarr at the same time, traveling towards Jita. The freighter leaving Jita averages 10 lightyears per hour more than the other, and they meet after 1 hour 36 minutes. What are the average speeds of the freighters?


10 ly / h diifference -> 16 ly difference after 1:36h
184 ly - 16 ly / 2 = 84 ly

Thus..
Slow freighter: 84 ly in 1:36h = 52.5 ly / h
Less slow freighter: 100 ly in 1:36 = 62.5 ly / h
Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
#29 - 2012-01-31 09:19:11 UTC
Aggressive Nutmeg wrote:
Wot I Think wrote:
Jita and Amarr are 184 lightyears apart. A freighter leaves Jita traveling towards Amarr, and another freighter leaves Amarr at the same time, traveling towards Jita. The freighter leaving Jita averages 10 lightyears per hour more than the other, and they meet after 1 hour 36 minutes. What are the average speeds of the freighters?

What do you mean? African or European freighter?

What do you mean? African or European freighter swallow?

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W1rlW1nd
WirlWind
#30 - 2012-01-31 09:20:45 UTC
met worst wrote:
...

How long till the train exists the tunnel?


If the tunnel doesn't exist yet, then I think the train will be instantly destroyed upon attempt to "enter" it. So, A. infinity?
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-01-31 09:25:36 UTC
What about the star gates?

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Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#32 - 2012-01-31 09:29:01 UTC
Brock Nelson wrote:
Dirk Magnum wrote:
INTELLIGENT DESIGN.


I snickered


Lol me too
Cass Lie
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-01-31 09:30:34 UTC
Sephira Galamore wrote:
Wot I Think wrote:
Jita and Amarr are 184 lightyears apart. A freighter leaves Jita traveling towards Amarr, and another freighter leaves Amarr at the same time, traveling towards Jita. The freighter leaving Jita averages 10 lightyears per hour more than the other, and they meet after 1 hour 36 minutes. What are the average speeds of the freighters?


10 ly / h diifference -> 16 ly difference after 1:36h
184 ly - 16 ly / 2 = 84 ly

Thus..
Slow freighter: 84 ly in 1:36h = 52.5 ly / h
Less slow freighter: 100 ly in 1:36 = 62.5 ly / h


With those speeds they would meet way before they undocked (in a suitable reference frame).
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#34 - 2012-01-31 09:39:35 UTC  |  Edited by: ACE McFACE
gfldex wrote:
met worst wrote:
There's a train 1 mile long travelling at 60 miles per hour and it enters a tunnel that is 1 mile long.

How long till the train exists the tunnel?


Is that a nautical mile or a land mile?

A proper Kilometre

Also, how many people get off at Boston on the way to New York in these freighters?

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Sadayiel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-01-31 09:58:16 UTC
Wot I Think wrote:
Jita and Amarr are 184 lightyears apart. A freighter leaves Jita traveling towards Amarr, and another freighter leaves Amarr at the same time, traveling towards Jita. The freighter leaving Jita averages 10 lightyears per hour more than the other, and they meet after 1 hour 36 minutes. What are the average speeds of the freighters?



We lack serious data to provide a reliable answer!!!

Do both fly in autopilot or manual all the way in?
Do both pilots have Adv spaceship command maxed or not?
Do both pilots have the same navigation skills?
Do both pilots fly alone or some corpie it's webbing them at gates?
Do both pilots are being bumped for fun by some bored capsuleer?
Do both pilots have the proper clearance papers, or will some gate delay they warp in?
Do both pilots carry something worthy to be ganked?
Do Jita pilot GET OR NOT STUCK in Jita 4-4 after trying to warp to perimeter stargate? (personal exp i swear)

Can provide more variants to prove how incomplete your original data is but i'm not bored enough Big smile
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#36 - 2012-01-31 10:06:34 UTC
Elistea wrote:
What the hell is going on here?!
…with maths!
Grukni
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-01-31 10:26:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Grukni
Faster than light travelling?

They collided in the past
Xanatia
Vengeance Imperium
#38 - 2012-01-31 10:38:28 UTC
what method is being used to verify that each ship leaves at the same time?
how does this method hold up under the laws of relativity?
what method is being used to measure the relative velocities of the freighters?
are the freighters using a shortest route or are there any anomalies they have to avoid?
where is the observer relative to the freighters?
Tiberius Sunstealer
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#39 - 2012-01-31 10:42:16 UTC
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#40 - 2012-01-31 10:47:33 UTC
How long is a piece of string ?

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