Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Currently, the T2 destroyer range is very small. We have interdictors and that's it.

We also have small remote armour reps and small shield transporters and small energy transfers which are all pretty much useless.

So. A light logistics ship could use these modules and would fit well into an AF fleet (especially now with the epic AF buff).

I would also suggest that the LLS could also have the EWAR immunity bonus. This would separate it from the current logistic cruisers which are very good and would also give the CCP proposed Electronic Attack Frigate (Ability to EWAR ships that are immune) far more value as it would be useful outside of capital ship fleets.

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Edit: Changed ship class name to Light Logistics Ship as it was mentioned that "Light Logistics Destroyer" was a little misleading.

EWAR immunity would only be a bonus if the proposed ability of EAF's ignoring this ship ability was implemented. Coupled with the fact that destroyers have fat signatures, low speeds and poor sensors (compared to cruisers) means that EAF's will be able to really cause them problems.

Of course, the ship should be suitably defanged for this role.

I don't really like the idea of AoE logistics, especially for the small ship role as you would be repping your enemies just as moch as your friends at the ranges you would be fighting at.

I agree. Faction and deadspace RR modules need a bit of love. Any more feedback?

You'd need a better name. I thought you meant something light that killed logis at first glance.

Other than that, I don't see why not. More ships are fun, frigate gangs are fun, and frigate gangs with at least a little bit of survivability can't be a bad thing.

I like it. Rifter fleets need logi support! +1

Alternatively, CCP could also just fix the T1 logi cruisers for low-SP logi ships.

Yes. Frigate/Destroyer gangs are epic fun. Keeping the cost and SP requirements of a logi ship low, as in a T2 Destroyer Hull, will attract more younger players into the support role.

I really want those small armour/shield remote reps and small energy transfers to actually be useful and worth something and believe this will help.

Yup. I love my Scimitar and all, but if it were an Osprey or a Scythe, I would be much more willing to take it into battle. As it stands, there is no way to get really "trained" on using logis similar to other ships -- by losing lots of ships. Logis are expensive, and do not have a cheap equivalent.

Well I would imagine that a T2 Destroyer hull that is a dedicated logistics ship would cost approx 60 mill fully fitted. This is a fairly reasonable price for a younger ( or skint ) player to use and risk more often instead of the approx 200mill cost of a fully fitted Logistics ship.

how bout some destroyer like bonuses into it as well, range and cycle times and cap role bonus.

Yes, but it would have to be balanced carefully to not upset the role of the existing logis. Fitting more than 3-ish medium reppers should be hard. Don't forget the agility/speed to stay out of trouble, for the roaming variants (similar to the Scimi).