EVE General Discussion

Not only that, but the Sansha ships should be able to grapple like in the big battle scene at the end of the Firefly movie, Serenity. You could make some pretty cool game mechanics for that.

both grappled and grappler ships at 0 velocity to each other, but too high a velocity for an aimed shot from other ships. Grapple too much mass and hook rips from hull causing some hull damage. Grappler can detonate a chrge to release cable without dameage to either ship. Tracking is 0 speed for both. Probably suicide for the grappler, unless done correctly. basic Sancha gapple module has one charge, t2 has 3. Lines diconnect when one or both ships destroyed. grappled ship can not warp. The dance of death. no ships bigger than cruisers can grapple.

WOOT!!!!!!!

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I think playing with a good group of people is the most important thing to enjoying yourself, and second to that is setting good goals for yourself. Come up with a plan for something, not just "roam syndicate for 2 hours" and commit to it. Succeed or fail you'll probably have fun either way.

PVP is boring because nobody seems to want to fight a faction BS fleet supported by more logistics than there are combat ships even though the numbers are even.

This is what I was getting at, agreed.

Actually people do not realize enough the real trend making PVP more boring:

PVP is getting MUCH more expensive! Leading to much less PVP and more cautious boring PVP.
The standard ships in PVP are moving from T1 to T2 to Faction/Pirate to T3 ships, to Officer mods, and expensive implants.

Just think about it:
Stabber 3 mil
Vagabond 100mil+ 30000% jump in price!
Cynabal 200mil+
Loki 600mil+

Constant rate of increase is bad enough, but this is exponential runaway inflation in costs.
We are talking 20000%, 60000% price jumps here!
Whereas previously, you can earn the cost of your ship loss in a few hours, now it takes days, weeks or months to replace your ship. And you even lose skills if it is a T3!

Giving the much higher ISK costs of losing, of course blobs are getting more blobby.
2v1 becomes 10v1 becomes 100v1 becomes hot-dropping in capitals to kill frigates.
Of course people undock less and avoid fights and FCs are reluctant to risk their hugely expensive fleets in anything but absolutely guaranteed victories.

#1. Simplified, bizarre, and unimaginative electronic warfare and sensor mechanics.

That's probably the biggest thing right there, with effects on virtually everything PvP related, and requiring all sorts of other odd mechanics to try to fudge things. Whoever came up with this stuff doesn't seem to understand how sensor technologies scale and their application on large and small platforms.

#2, somewhat related, is the idea that you would have a giant battleship with virtually no provision for smaller guns. Anyone in their right mind in the EVE universe would build a BS, BC, or Cruiser with space to mount extra smaller class weapons. Nobody builds a ship with a half dozen giant weapons and nothing else. Look at the new battlecruisers - their design weakness is simply silly. "Hey, let's make a ship vulnerable to frigates that doesn't mount any weapons good at shooting at them. Brilliant!" That's almost a good one as "let's build a huge, monstrously expensive state of the art BS that has horrid targeting capabilities compared to a garbage truck!"

And before you start carrying on about balance - the only reason this would cause problems is because of point #1 up there. Smaller ships should still enjoy the benefit of speed, low cost, and low observability when put against larger ships, while the larger ships have more guns, more tank, much more powerful sensors, at the cost of being 'bomb magnets'. "Rock, paper, scissors" isn't good design, it's just a sign of laziness.

I have done my goals and no goals todays is appealing.. everything is kinda lame or meaningless and while doing it, it is boring.

Good point and argument, costs have increased as have tier and tech of the ships people fly and implants etc. You also got riggs now and combat boosters and more. Very good point.

Ridiculous. It's just numbers. That's the thing about inflation - yeah the prices are going up, but this is happening because isk is easier to come by. Of course if all you've done is save your money, don't have access to the new forms of income, and are trying to buy ships with your savings or level 4 mission income then yeah - you're screwed. But if you know how to make ISK, and know how to make even MORE isk using the different income streams available nowadays, then prices are still relatively the same and ships can be bought a-plenty.