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Sec Status issues - CCP FIX NOW PLZ
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Lord Salty
The Classy Gentlemans Corporation
Moist.
#1 - 2012-01-31 00:12:41 UTC
Sec status of pilots is currently screwed!
Im sure most of know by now how easy it is lose massive amounts of sec status in a very short amount of time.
On the flip side its very hard to regain sec status.
One rise per 15 minutes per system going off the best npc rat you killed. This is what its meant to be.
WRONG
CCP has screwed us again. Or at least those that like to pvp in low sec and maintain sec status. Sometimes you will get your 1 gain per 15 minutes other times an hour goes by and you get nothing even tho you have been killing rats non stop.
To make it even harder you get minuscule gains compared to what you lose just for attacking someone.
Elessa Enaka
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-01-31 00:15:51 UTC
Correct me if I am wrong, but why don't you just join FW? IIRC. attacking WTs doesn't give you a sec hit....

Stop being an asshat pirate and you won't need to worry about sec status, at least, IIRC

Devour to survive, so it is, so it's always been Eve is a great game if you can get past all of the asshats....
Berendas
Ascendant Operations
#3 - 2012-01-31 00:16:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Berendas
This has been happening for years. I had to rat my sec status up about 2.5 years ago (never again) and sometimes the sec gain wouldn't update for an hour or two at a time. A GM told me that if the update takes longer, that the proper amount is all added to your sec at once, but that was a while ago.

Edit: the above poster is displaying symptoms of pirate butthurt.
Rhinanna
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-01-31 00:20:57 UTC
Sec status is the easiest thing in the world to get back up and its MEANT to take some time so people have a harder job running around hi-sec ganking all the time.

Working as intended, thanks for your contribution to my tear collection.

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Kimberly McCloud
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-01-31 00:26:44 UTC
Lord Salty wrote:
Sec status of pilots is currently screwed!
Im sure most of know by now how easy it is lose massive amounts of sec status in a very short amount of time.
On the flip side its very hard to regain sec status.
One rise per 15 minutes per system going off the best npc rat you killed. This is what its meant to be.
WRONG
CCP has screwed us again. Or at least those that like to pvp in low sec and maintain sec status. Sometimes you will get your 1 gain per 15 minutes other times an hour goes by and you get nothing even tho you have been killing rats non stop.
To make it even harder you get minuscule gains compared to what you lose just for attacking someone.


lol?

Assumed troll but lets give her a go.

Its the highest value rat per 15mins.

If you keep killing higher value rats it never goes 15 mins and you will never get the sec status (until you kill the highest bounty possible for your system then its 15 mins from that point and anything else you kill wont matter).

And its per system per 15. AND PER FACTION per 15!

Took one of my toons about 3 days at a pretty casual rate from -9 -> -0.5
Tian Nu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-01-31 00:35:21 UTC
work perfect as it is !

to go from +5 to -2 (whith out killing pods) take quiet few ganks.

to get from -2 to +5 in 0.0 take two days nothing to be fixed stop shooting ppl if you dont know how !

Father O'Malley about Darius III begging for whelp: “Hows that working out for ya ? I make it 02:21 and all I see is you begging Riverini to get numbers and trying to recruit from the incursion public channel.”
Elessa Enaka
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-01-31 00:37:18 UTC
Berendas wrote:
This has been happening for years. I had to rat my sec status up about 2.5 years ago (never again) and sometimes the sec gain wouldn't update for an hour or two at a time. A GM told me that if the update takes longer, that the proper amount is all added to your sec at once, but that was a while ago.

Edit: the above poster is displaying symptoms of pirate butthurt.


Call it what you want, but I don't see it as butthurt. I have no reason to be butthurt, I've evaded more pirate gatecamps than have succeeded in getting me. I'm just tired of people who apparently think the name of the game Space Pirates and not Eve. I mean, are we playing members of corporations or members of gangs?

I love how there are more incentives to be a bad guy in eve than to be a good guy. At least that is how it has seemed to me over the time I have spent playing eve.

Devour to survive, so it is, so it's always been Eve is a great game if you can get past all of the asshats....
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#8 - 2012-01-31 00:38:47 UTC
Run Dread Pilot Scarlet before you drop below highsec access.

???

Profit.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-01-31 00:39:34 UTC
Kimberly McCloud wrote:
Lord Salty wrote:
Sec status of pilots is currently screwed!
Im sure most of know by now how easy it is lose massive amounts of sec status in a very short amount of time.
On the flip side its very hard to regain sec status.
One rise per 15 minutes per system going off the best npc rat you killed. This is what its meant to be.
WRONG
CCP has screwed us again. Or at least those that like to pvp in low sec and maintain sec status. Sometimes you will get your 1 gain per 15 minutes other times an hour goes by and you get nothing even tho you have been killing rats non stop.
To make it even harder you get minuscule gains compared to what you lose just for attacking someone.


lol?

Assumed troll but lets give her a go.

Its the highest value rat per 15mins.

If you keep killing higher value rats it never goes 15 mins and you will never get the sec status (until you kill the highest bounty possible for your system then its 15 mins from that point and anything else you kill wont matter).

And its per system per 15. AND PER FACTION per 15!

Took one of my toons about 3 days at a pretty casual rate from -9 -> -0.5


So you can get a faster sec increase by hitting multiple systems / factions during each 15 minute cycle? Just making sure I understood ya.


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Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-01-31 00:41:09 UTC
Elessa Enaka wrote:
Berendas wrote:
This has been happening for years. I had to rat my sec status up about 2.5 years ago (never again) and sometimes the sec gain wouldn't update for an hour or two at a time. A GM told me that if the update takes longer, that the proper amount is all added to your sec at once, but that was a while ago.

Edit: the above poster is displaying symptoms of pirate butthurt.


Call it what you want, but I don't see it as butthurt. I have no reason to be butthurt, I've evaded more pirate gatecamps than have succeeded in getting me. I'm just tired of people who apparently think the name of the game Space Pirates and not Eve. I mean, are we playing members of corporations or members of gangs?

I love how there are more incentives to be a bad guy in eve than to be a good guy. At least that is how it has seemed to me over the time I have spent playing eve.



Maybe that's why they changed the name of Gangs to Fleets.... hmmm Idea

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Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#11 - 2012-01-31 00:41:14 UTC
Ris Dnalor wrote:
So you can get a faster sec increase by hitting multiple systems / factions during each 15 minute cycle? Just making sure I understood ya.


Yep, so multi faction missions like World's Collide and Dread Pilot Scarlet are sec generators.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
Shepherd Steelringer
#12 - 2012-01-31 00:49:38 UTC
I always understood that it was the biggest rat per system per 15minutes

It's not "alot". It's not "allot". It's "a lot". Two words.

Congratulations. You just levelled up in real life.
Kimberly McCloud
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-01-31 00:50:46 UTC
Ris Dnalor wrote:
Kimberly McCloud wrote:
Lord Salty wrote:
Sec status of pilots is currently screwed!
Im sure most of know by now how easy it is lose massive amounts of sec status in a very short amount of time.
On the flip side its very hard to regain sec status.
One rise per 15 minutes per system going off the best npc rat you killed. This is what its meant to be.
WRONG
CCP has screwed us again. Or at least those that like to pvp in low sec and maintain sec status. Sometimes you will get your 1 gain per 15 minutes other times an hour goes by and you get nothing even tho you have been killing rats non stop.
To make it even harder you get minuscule gains compared to what you lose just for attacking someone.


lol?

Assumed troll but lets give her a go.

Its the highest value rat per 15mins.

If you keep killing higher value rats it never goes 15 mins and you will never get the sec status (until you kill the highest bounty possible for your system then its 15 mins from that point and anything else you kill wont matter).

And its per system per 15. AND PER FACTION per 15!

Took one of my toons about 3 days at a pretty casual rate from -9 -> -0.5


So you can get a faster sec increase by hitting multiple systems / factions during each 15 minute cycle? Just making sure I understood ya.




Yep find a BS in 4-5 systems at belts and enjoy 4-5 sec hits an hour. Only do 1 BS per system then leave, if you keep killing higher value stuff you will never get your tick/never get to the next system.

Or find a multifaction mission where the gains have NOT been nerfed. (IE worlds collide is no sec because its easily exploited this way.)

YOUR ALL WELCOME
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#14 - 2012-01-31 00:57:00 UTC
Kimberly McCloud wrote:
Ris Dnalor wrote:
Kimberly McCloud wrote:
Lord Salty wrote:
Sec status of pilots is currently screwed!
Im sure most of know by now how easy it is lose massive amounts of sec status in a very short amount of time.
On the flip side its very hard to regain sec status.
One rise per 15 minutes per system going off the best npc rat you killed. This is what its meant to be.
WRONG
CCP has screwed us again. Or at least those that like to pvp in low sec and maintain sec status. Sometimes you will get your 1 gain per 15 minutes other times an hour goes by and you get nothing even tho you have been killing rats non stop.
To make it even harder you get minuscule gains compared to what you lose just for attacking someone.


lol?

Assumed troll but lets give her a go.

Its the highest value rat per 15mins.

If you keep killing higher value rats it never goes 15 mins and you will never get the sec status (until you kill the highest bounty possible for your system then its 15 mins from that point and anything else you kill wont matter).

And its per system per 15. AND PER FACTION per 15!

Took one of my toons about 3 days at a pretty casual rate from -9 -> -0.5


So you can get a faster sec increase by hitting multiple systems / factions during each 15 minute cycle? Just making sure I understood ya.




Yep find a BS in 4-5 systems at belts and enjoy 4-5 sec hits an hour. Only do 1 BS per system then leave, if you keep killing higher value stuff you will never get your tick/never get to the next system.

Or find a multifaction mission where the gains have NOT been nerfed. (IE worlds collide is no sec because its easily exploited this way.)

YOUR ALL WELCOME


When was WC changed?

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
Brock Nelson
#15 - 2012-01-31 00:59:27 UTC
What the hell is goin on in here? I see tears from both pirates and gank victims in one thread? Has the end of EVE come?

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kenxi
The Green Dollar
#16 - 2012-01-31 01:03:18 UTC
Ok lets go with an example you can understand. You killed someone and at your trial you tell the judge but i helped grandma across the street afterward. The judge anit going to care much.

The % of morons is always greater than what you would expect it to be unless you always assume 100% of people are morons
Aggressive Nutmeg
#17 - 2012-01-31 01:10:23 UTC
You need sec status to gank in hisec? That is so 2011.

Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana.
Serene Repose
#18 - 2012-01-31 01:12:32 UTC
Repairing Your Security Status

We must accommodate the idiocracy.