Intergalactic Summit

Yeah, we're still the minority.

If one person has the power to dictate the events of a system, then they aren't a minority in that system no matter how they are outnumbered. My question is... have we come to function in a way that parallels governments? If we all dropped our conflicts and worked together, would our collaboration give us the might to rule? Would our voice be heard over others? Would we even be considered a threat?

I wonder if even individually we've got more say over our small piece of the universe than had ever been expected of us.

Plus we dont have our own clone tanks. we might think we are independent, but we aren't if we want to remain immortal.

That really does put my thoughts into perspective, but don't even the most influential politicians trust their lives in faith that either no one will want to kill them enough or have done enough to keep those from succeeding?

It is different for us, though, every time we die there's the risk that it'll be the last, and that decisions can be made by others from very far away. I have to admit that feeling so much like a wraith, having died so many times and always pretending to be alive again, it wouldn't take much for someone to trick me into getting podded.

Of course, that's all on top of the fact that we're just as vulnerable as anyone else without our resurrection machines.

I can agree towards us all being a minority, look at all these 'great' alliance's and corporations, they achieve but thats thanks to large collections of capsuleer's, Demi-Gods, 'Immortals' whom are truthfully only immortal thanks to the assistance of other perhaps 'ordinary' human's, who must be behind all the physical work, such as machinery to take what we place in our hangar's and such, but .. what if, we 'immortal's are really a stepping stone? As you mentioned augmentation, what if someone .. designed something better than us, something that can out perform us, possibly outlive gunfire or something..

What if we are simply tossed aside, or shut down, in replacement for a demi-god V1.2 or something which could outperform us in all kinds of ways, such as being capable to have weaponry on thier ship hit area's on your own ship which would possibly cause 200% more damage than we can even perform.

What if .. the ships we use are the ships that are only known to us as the companies have refused to give us intel or even conformation of newer, or possibly older ships that could take on possibly (if im not thinking too much) a titan or something and its essentially the class of like a battlecruiser.

I'd say we are a minority, until we are a majority of disposed corpse's, only to be replaced by 'greater' Demi-God's or possibly mortal's that can outperform us easily, what if mortal un-augmentated humans could out-perform us?
What would happen to us? be disposed? have to flee out of fear of being shut down? or is there secretly a massive kill-switch connected to EVERY Demi-God alive in EVE, would we realise if we are being replaced to have a chance to fight back, or would we just have that feeling of what mortals call 'death' without the strangely peculiar feeling of awakening in a new body .. ?

That's a helpful perspective.

When I thought to ask this months ago, it was for the concern that maybe, someday, we'll accidentally become the dictators whether we like it or not; Having so much influence, capsuleers are given a lot of responsibilities and the expectations of them can grow. There will always be some way to destroy us, our serial mortality depends on an established and prosperous society and if we abuse our power too greatly we'll inevitably destroy the infrastructure that allows us that power.

With further reliance on us by existing nations, we risk developing our own nations in which we are the ruler. These might be large corporations or even alliances now, but these are from the cooperation of the other demigods, our peers. Alone we may become so prosperous that our entourage could be entire tribes or races through no intent of our own.

I worry that by not realizing how influential we are, we can do a lot of harm we don't want to do.

Your masters have tought you well, Aphoexma, you sound like a true Amarrian already.

Ha, ha, just joking.

But seriously, all that transhumanism "We are god-like, we are responsible for the development of mankind bla blah"-stuff sounds like the chatter of a drunken Amarrian- I mean really, badly drunken, when he is past the stage of Brutor-jokes.

As a gentically engineered property of the Zaniou Biotech Corporation I am in the pleasant situation of knowing my worth.
It is 1.580.000 Isk. Capsuleers are rather cheap when you can breed them in a lab, and they are easily replaced. So...I may be a minority, but I could be mass produced to meet the military demand, maybe up to the point of making me a majority.
Does this make me any special? No, on the contrary.
What I am trying to say is: get over it, get a life, leave your pod sometimes, just do something.
Someone told me that you minmatar pilots are all "bio" without any genetical and surgical alterations- and that you are still in the possession of reproductive organs. Not sure if this is true, but damn, if I were you, I sure as hell knew what to do with my free time....

The collective energies of all capsuleers might be formidable, if they were pointed in one direction. But instead, a great deal of that energy is expended in individual capsuleers battling one other. The product of much energy and effort-- a capsuleer's ship-- can be destroyed in an instant. The capsuleer who destroyed it while likely before long see his/her own efforts (ship) destroyed. Somewhat like in atmospheric weather systems, the energies in motion tend to cancel out one another, rather than moving together and building into a more powerful system.

On the other hand, those capsuleers who devote themselves to mining or trade may have very significant impact. Compared to their non-capsuleer counterparts, at least. A non-capsuleer's overall business plan has to be limited to the period of only one lifespan. One can plan for beyond one's lifetime-- but one must rely on one's heirs or a corporate structure to carry out those plans after one's death. A capsuleer businessperson, though, can make a plan stretching into eternity, and personally see it carried out all along the way. I'm no business expert, but surely that power to execute 50, 100, or 500 year plans has some impact on our economies and societies.

It would be a mistake to misinterpret numbers for influence, as clearly shown by the impact of the capsule population on the species as a whole. Our caste has been the forerunner of technological advancement, the lifeblood of an interstellar economy, with the power and influence to shape the future of nations, yet our numbers fail to rival that of a typical asteroid mining colony. Unfortunately, I don’t have the data to support either opinion that we are greater sources of positive or negative influence on society as a whole, but I certainly have my suspicions.

Very true. Capsuleers aren't actually immortal. They just have access to a copying technology. Sort of like BPCs. If someday one's clone technology doesn't work perfectly...no more immortality.